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I keep looking at the Canon 15-35 f2.8 IS, seems to be a super sharp lens that takes regular screw-in filters. Combine that with the IBIS, you are looking at the hand held possibility of very slow shutter speed, of course not the 6 seconds in theory as Fred pointed out, but 2 seconds, 1 or 1/2 second at ISO 100? I think for some people it has a lot of value in landscape or interior when a tripod is not convenient or allowed. I have the Sigma 14-24 but I wouldn't mind trading that for a 15-35 that has IS and takes regular filters.


Here is a photo of my iMac screen taken just a few minutes ago handheld with my Olympus EM1 MKIII that has 7 claimed stops of IBIS. It is at ISO 100, 1 sec and f11 with the 17mm f1.8 lens (34mm FF). Not the sharpest lens close up and normally I would not shoot at f11 due to possible diffraction. As @JMan13 said Olympus's IBIS is very good, way better than my Sony A73. It is 5 stops for sure as this photo is, vs. maybe 2 to 3 stops, lens dependent, for Sony. I have taken landscapes at 2 seconds no problem, but as Fred said due to subject motion my portraits rarely go below 1/25 sec .

EDIT: I have added a Sony A73 photo with the 35mm f2.8 ZA lens and handheld the steadiest I could get was at 1/4 second, or 3 stops of IBIS. At 1 sec the text was unreadable.




Jul 12, 2020 at 03:12 PM
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kdrk888 wrote:

I keep looking at the Canon 15-35 f2.8 IS, seems to be a super sharp lens that takes regular screw-in filters. Combine that with the IBIS, you are looking at the hand held possibility of very slow shutter speed, of course not the 6 seconds in theory as Fred pointed out, but 2 seconds, 1 or 1/2 second at ISO 100? I think for some people it has a lot of value in landscape or interior when a tripod is not convenient or allowed. I have the Sigma 14-24 but I wouldn't mind trading that for a 15-35 that has IS and takes regular filters.


Here is a photo of my iMac screen taken just a few minutes ago handheld with my Olympus EM1 MKIII that has 7 claimed stops of IBIS. It is at ISO 100, 1 sec and f11 with the 17mm f1.8 lens (34mm FF). Not the sharpest lens close up and normally I would not shoot at f11 due to possible diffraction. As @JMan13 said Olympus's IBIS is very good, way better than my Sony A73. It is 5 stops for sure as this photo is, vs. maybe 2 to 3 stops, lens dependent, for Sony. I have taken landscapes at 2 seconds no problem, but as Fred said due to subject motion my portraits rarely go below 1/25 sec .

EDIT: I have added a Sony A73 photo with the 35mm f2.8 ZA lens and the handheld steadiest I could get was at 1/4 second or 3 stops of IBIS. At 1 sec the text was unreadable.




Jul 12, 2020 at 08:28 AM
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kdrk888 wrote:

I keep looking at the Canon 15-35 f2.8 IS, seems to be a super sharp lens that takes regular screw-in filters. Combine that with the IBIS, you are looking at the hand held possibility of very slow shutter speed, of course not the 6 seconds in theory as Fred pointed out, but 2 seconds, 1 or 1/2 second at ISO 100? I think for some people it has a lot of value in landscape or interior when a tripod is not convenient or allowed. I have the Sigma 14-24 but I wouldn't mind trading that for a 15-35 that has IS and takes regular filters.


Here is a photo of my iMac screen taken just a few minutes ago handheld with my Olympus EM1 MKIII that has 7 claimed stops of IBIS. It is at ISO 100, 1 sec and f11 with the 17mm f1.8 lens (34mm FF). Not the sharpest lens close up and normally I would not shoot at f11 due to possible diffraction. As @JMan13 said Olympus's IBIS is very good, way better than my Sony A73. It is 5 stops for sure as this photo is, vs. maybe 2 to 3 stop for Sony. I have taken landscapes at 2 seconds no problem, but as Fred said due to subject motion my portraits rarely go below 1/25 sec .

EDIT: I have added a Sony A73 photo with the 35mm f2.8 ZA lens and the handheld steadiest I could get was at 1/4 second or 3 stops of IBIS. At 1 sec the text was unreadable.




Jul 12, 2020 at 08:20 AM
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kdrk888 wrote:

I keep looking at the Canon 15-35 f2.8 IS, seems to be a super sharp lens that takes regular screw-in filters. Combine that with the IBIS, you are looking at the hand held possibility of very slow shutter speed, of course not the 6 seconds in theory as Fred pointed out, but 2 seconds, 1 or 1/2 second at ISO 100? I think for some people it has a lot of value in landscape or interior when a tripod is not convenient or allowed. I have the Sigma 14-24 but I wouldn't mind trading that for a 15-35 that has IS and takes regular filters.


Here is a photo of my iMac screen taken just a few minutes ago handheld with my Olympus EM1 MKIII that has 7 claimed stops of IBIS. It is at ISO 100, 1 sec and f11 with the 17mm f1.8 lens (34mm FF). Not the sharpest lens close up and normally I would not shoot at f11 due to possible diffreaction. As @JMan13 said Olympus's IBIS is very good, way better than my Sony A73. It is 5 stops for sure as this photo is, vs. maybe 2 to 3 stop for Sony. I have taken landscapes at 2 seconds no problem, but as Fred said due to subject motion my portraits rarely go below 1/25 sec .

EDIT: I have added a Sony A73 photo with the 35mm f2.8 ZA lens and the handheld steadiest I could get was at 1/4 second or 3 stops of IBIS. At 1 sec the text was unreadable.




Jul 12, 2020 at 08:19 AM
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kdrk888 wrote:

I keep looking at the Canon 15-35 f2.8 IS, seems to be a super sharp lens that takes regular screw-in filters. Combine that with the IBIS, you are looking at the hand held possibility of very slow shutter speed, of course not the 6 seconds in theory as Fred pointed out, but 2 seconds, 1 or 1/2 second at ISO 100? I think for some people it has a lot of value in landscape or interior when a tripod is not convenient or allowed. I have the Sigma 14-24 but I wouldn't mind trading that for a 15-35 that has IS and takes regular filters.


Here is a photo of my iMac screen taken just a few minutes ago handheld with my Olympus EM1 MKIII that has 7 stops of IBIS. It is at ISO 100, 1 sec and f11 with the 17mm f1.8 lens (34mm FF). Not the sharpest lens close up and normally I would not shoot at f11 due to possible diffreaction. As @JMan13 said Olympus's IBIS is very good, way better than my Sony A73. It is 5 stops for sure as this photo is, vs. maybe 2 to 3 stop for Sony. I have taken landscapes at 2 seconds no problem, but as Fred said due to subject motion my portraits rarely go below 1/25 sec .

EDIT: I have added a Sony A73 photo with the 35mm f2.8 ZA lens and the handheld steadiest I could get was at 1/4 second or 3 stops of IBIS. At 1 sec the text was unreadable.




Jul 12, 2020 at 08:18 AM
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kdrk888 wrote:

I keep looking at the Canon 15-35 f2.8 IS, seems to be a super sharp lens that takes regular screw-in filters. Combine that with the IBIS, you are looking at the hand held possibility of very slow shutter speed, of course not the 6 seconds in theory as Fred pointed out, but 2 seconds, 1 or 1/2 second at ISO 100? I think for some people it has a lot of value in landscape or interior when a tripod is not convenient or allowed. I have the Sigma 14-24 but I wouldn't mind trading that for a 15-35 that has IS and takes regular filters.


Here is a photo of my iMac screen taken just a few minutes ago handheld with my Olympus EM1 MKIII that has 7 stops of IBIS. It is at ISO 100, 1 sec and f11 with the 17mm f1.8 lens (34mm FF). Not the sharpest lens close up. As @JMan13 said Olympus's IBIS is very good, way better than my Sony A73. It is 5 stops for sure as this photo is, vs. maybe 2 to 3 stop for Sony. I have taken landscapes at 2 seconds no problem, but as Fred said my portraits rarely go below 1/25 sec due to subject motion.

EDIT: I have added a Sony A73 photo with the 35mm f2.8 ZA lens and the handheld steadiest I could get was at 1/4 second or 3 stops of IBIS. At 1 sec the text was unreadable.




Jul 12, 2020 at 08:10 AM
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kdrk888 wrote:

I keep looking at the Canon 15-35 f2.8 IS, seems to be a super sharp lens that takes regular screw-in filters. Combine that with the IBIS, you are looking at the hand held possibility of very slow shutter speed, of course not the 6 seconds in theory as Fred pointed out, but 2 seconds, 1 or 1/2 second at ISO 100? I think for some people it has a lot of value in landscape or interior when a tripod is not convenient or allowed. I have the Sigma 14-24 but I wouldn't mind trading that for a 15-35 that has IS and takes regular filters.


Here is a photo of my iMac screen taken just a few minutes ago handheld with my Olympus EM1 MKIII that has 7 stops of IBIS. It is at ISO 100, 1 sec and f11 with the 17mm f1.8 lens (34mm FF). Not the sharpest lens close up. As @JMan13 said Olympus's IBIS is very good, way better than my Sony A73. It is 5 stops for sure as this photo is, vs. maybe 2 to 3 stop for Sony. I have taken landscapes at 2 seconds no problem, but as Fred said my portraits rarely go below 1/25 sec due to subject motion.

EDIT: I have added a Sony A73 photo with the 35mm f2.8 ZA lens and the handheld steadiest I could get was at 1/4 second or 3 stops of IBIS.




Jul 12, 2020 at 08:07 AM
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kdrk888 wrote:

I keep looking at the Canon 15-35 f2.8 IS, seems to be a super sharp lens that takes regular screw-in filters. Combine that with the IBIS, you are looking at the hand held possibility of very slow shutter speed, of course not the 6 seconds in theory as Fred pointed out, but 2 seconds, 1 or 1/2 second at ISO 100? I think for some people it has a lot of value in landscape or interior when a tripod is not convenient or allowed. I have the Sigma 14-24 but I wouldn't mind trading that for a 15-35 that has IS and takes regular filters.


Here is a photo of my iMac screen taken just a few minutes ago handheld with my Olympus EM1 MKIII that has 7 stops of IBIS. It is at ISO 100, 1 sec and f11 with the 17mm f1.8 lens (34mm FF). Not the sharpest lens close up. As @JMan13 said Olympus's IBIS is very good, way better than my Sony A73. It is 5 stops for sure as this photo is, vs. maybe 2 to 3 stop for Sony. I have taken landscapes at 2 seconds no problem, but as Fred said my portraits rarely go below 1/25 sec due to subject motion.

EDIT: I have added a Sony A73 photo with the 35mm f2.8 ZA lens and the best I could get was at 1/4 second or 3 stops of IBIS.




Jul 12, 2020 at 08:02 AM
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kdrk888 wrote:

I keep looking at the Canon 15-35 f2.8 IS, seems to be a super sharp lens that takes regular screw-in filters. Combine that with the IBIS, you are looking at the hand held possibility of very slow shutter speed, of course not the 6 seconds in theory as Fred pointed out, but 2 seconds, 1 or 1/2 second at ISO 100? I think for some people it has a lot of value in landscape or interior when a tripod is not convenient or allowed. I have the Sigma 14-24 but I wouldn't mind trading that for a 15-35 that has IS and takes regular filters.


Here is a photo of my iMac screen taken just a few minutes ago handheld with my Olympus EM1 MKIII that has 7 stops of IBIS. It is at ISO 100, 1 sec and f11 with the 17mm f1.8 lens (34mm FF). Not the sharpest lens close up. As @JMan13 said Olympus's IBIS is very good, way better than my Sony A73. It is 5 stops for sure as this photo is, vs. maybe 2 to 3 stop for Sony. I have taken landscapes at 2 seconds no problem, but as Fred said my portraits rarely go below 1/25 sec due to subject motion.




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kdrk888 wrote:

I keep looking at the Canon 15-35 f2.8 IS, seems to be a super sharp lens that takes regular screw-in filters. Combine that with the IBIS, you are looking at the hand held possibility of very slow shutter speed, of course not the 6 seconds in theory as Fred pointed out, but 2 seconds, 1 or 1/2 second at ISO 100? I think for some people it has a lot of value in landscape or interior when a tripod is not convenient or allowed. I have the Sigma 14-24 but I wouldn't mind trading that for a 15-35 that has IS and takes regular filters.


Here is a photo of my iMac screen taken just a few minutes ago handheld with my Olympus EM1 MKIII that has 7 stops of IBIS. It is at ISO 100, 1 sec and f11 with the 17mm f1.8 lens (34mm FF). Not the sharpest lens close up. As @JMan13 said Olympus's IBIS is very good, way better than my Sony A73. It is 5 stops for sure as this photo is, vs. maybe 2 to 3 stop for Sony. I have taken landscapes at 2 seconds no problem, but as Fred said my portraits rarely go below 1/25 sec due to subject motion.




Jul 12, 2020 at 07:59 AM
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kdrk888 wrote:

I keep looking at the Canon 15-35 f2.8 IS, seems to be a super sharp lens that takes regular screw-in filters. Combine that with the IBIS, you are looking at the hand held possibility of very slow shutter speed, of course not the 6 seconds in theory as Fred pointed out, but 2 seconds, 1 or 1/2 second at ISO 100? I think for some people it has a lot of value in landscape or interior when a tripod is not convenient or allowed. I have the Sigma 14-24 but I wouldn't mind trading that for a 15-35 that has IS and takes regular filters.


Here is a photo of my iMac screen taken just a few minutes ago handheld with my Olympus EM1 MKIII that has 7 stops of IBIS. It is at ISO 100, 1 sec and f11 with the 17mm f1.8 lens (34mm FF). Not the sharpest lens close up. As @JMan13 said Olympus's IBIS is very good, way better than my Sony A73. It is 5 stops for sure, vs. maybe 1-1/2 for Sony. I have taken landscapes at 2 seconds no problem, but as Fred said my portraits rarely go below 1/25 sec due to subject motion.




Jul 11, 2020 at 10:09 PM
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kdrk888 wrote:

I keep looking at the Canon 15-35 f2.8 IS, seems to be a super sharp lens that takes regular screw-in filters. Combine that with the IBIS, you are looking at the hand held possibility of very slow shutter speed, of course not the 6 seconds in theory as Fred pointed out, but 2 seconds, 1 or 1/2 second at ISO 100? I think for some people it has a lot of value in landscape or interior when a tripod is not convenient or allowed. I have the Sigma 14-24 but I wouldn't mind trading that for a 15-35 that has IS and takes regular filters.


Here is a photo taken just a few minutes ago handheld with my Olympus EM1 MKIII that has 7 stops of IBIS. It is at ISO 100, 1 sec and f11 with the 17mm f1.8 lens (34mm FF). Not the sharpest lens close up. As @JMan13 said Olympus's IBIS is very good, way better than my Sony A73. It is 5 stops for sure, vs. maybe 1-1/2 for Sony. I have taken landscapes at 2 seconds no problem, but as Fred said my portraits rarely go below 1/25 sec due to subject motion.




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kdrk888 wrote:

I keep looking at the Canon 15-35 f2.8 IS, seems to be a super sharp lens that takes regular screw-in filters. Combine that with the IBIS, you are looking at the hand held possibility of very slow shutter speed, of course not the 6 seconds in theory as Fred pointed out, but 2 seconds, 1 or 1/2 second at ISO 100? I think for some people it has a lot of value in landscape or interior when a tripod is not convenient or allowed. I have the Sigma 14-24 but I wouldn't mind trading that for a 15-35 that has IS and takes regular filters.


Here is a photo taken just a few minutes ago handheld with my Olympus EM1 MKIII that has 7 stops of IBIS. It is at ISO 100, 1 sec and f11 with the 17mm f1.8 lens. Not the sharpest lens close up. As @JMan13 said Olympus's IBIS is very good, way better than my Sony A73. It is 5 stops for sure, vs. maybe 1-1/2 for Sony. I have taken landscapes at 2 seconds no problem, but as Fred said my portraits rarely go below 1/25 sec due to subject motion.




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