R5 vs 5DSR Landscape and the AA filter - DPR has comparisons
I have the 5DSR (51mpx no AA) and A7Rii (42mpx and no AA). I like to print large and crop - typically 48x32. And 2/3 of my effort is landscape and the remainder is big still high contrast (black on white sky grizzlies, moose or white polar bears on bright background).
I use my 5dsr with ts17, ts24 and 24-105/f4 mostly for less challenging locations near the road.
I use the A7Rii with 28-70 and Laowa 15 Shift for long hikes. Sometimes renting Sony 12-24.
I use my 5dsr with my 600f4v2, 200-400, and 100-400 for pursuing large animals
My question here is - I am tempted to buy the R5 because:
Dynamic Range is proported to be 2 stops better than 5dsr - helpful but not necessary because of AEB/blending
I can use adapter with flip in nd to avoid big filters systems on TS17, Ts24 - nice but not necessary
R5 is definitely better than 5DSR (12 fps vs 5, buffer to 87 instead of 15, animal eye following) for large animals
[5DSR histogram by itself is so slow to clear in burst that its practically blind shooting on exposure ]
The R5 with 24-105 non f4 would be >500grams lighter than 5DSR/24-105f4 and comparable to A7R for backpacking
This lets me reduce to one brand and I am not fond of Sony for lots of reasons.[dust performance, menu, 12bit on bulb...]
However, I am not excited by the AA filter. The 45mpx vs 51mpx already reduces resolution by ~5% and then adding the AA filter notionally reduces it another ~10%?.
In a video interview someone (dustin abbot?) indicated that canon was claiming the 45mpx/AA/R5 out resolved the 5DSR 51mpx .
Anyone have knowledge of how 45/AA out resolving 51/no AA could be true theoretically or whether its shows up in data? And whether canon actually said it? [I remember the Nikon d800e (36mpx/no AA) out resolving the d800 (36mpx/AA) by a significant amount in tests which suggests a large loss in resolution with AA]
Maybe the 5DSR AA is thick and reversed and this increases distortion as compared to just 1 thin AA?
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Update: R5 does look like more resolution and cleaner !!!
R5 vs 5DSR Landscape and the AA filter - DPR has comparisons
I have the 5DSR (51mpx no AA) and A7Rii (42mpx and no AA). I like to print large and crop - typically 48x32. And 2/3 of my effort is landscape and the remainder is big still high contrast (black on white sky grizzlies, moose or white polar bears on bright background).
I use my 5dsr with ts17, ts24 and 24-105/f4 mostly for less challenging locations near the road.
I use the A7Rii with 28-70 and Laowa 15 Shift for long hikes. Sometimes renting Sony 12-24.
I use my 5dsr with my 600f4v2, 200-400, and 100-400 for pursuing large animals
My question here is - I am tempted to buy the R5 because:
Dynamic Range is proported to be 2 stops better than 5dsr - helpful but not necessary because of AEB/blending
I can use adapter with flip in nd to avoid big filters systems on TS17, Ts24 - nice but not necessary
R5 is definitely better than 5DSR (12 fps vs 5, buffer to 87 instead of 15, animal eye following) for large animals
[5DSR histogram by itself is so slow to clear in burst that its practically blind shooting on exposure ]
The R5 with 24-105 non f4 would be >500grams lighter than 5DSR/24-105f4 and comparable to A7R for backpacking
This lets me reduce to one brand and I am not fond of Sony for lots of reasons.[dust performance, menu, 12bit on bulb...]
However, I am not excited by the AA filter. The 45mpx vs 51mpx already reduces resolution by ~5% and then adding the AA filter notionally reduces it another ~10%?.
In a video interview someone (dustin abbot?) indicated that canon was claiming the 45mpx/AA/R5 out resolved the 5DSR 51mpx .
Anyone have knowledge of how 45/AA out resolving 51/no AA could be true theoretically or whether its shows up in data? And whether canon actually said it? [I remember the Nikon d800e (36mpx/no AA) out resolving the d800 (36mpx/AA) by a significant amount in tests which suggests a large loss in resolution with AA]
Maybe the 5DSR AA is thick and reversed and this increases distortion as compared to just 1 thin AA?
----------------------
Update: R5 does look like more resolution and cleaner !!!
I have the 5DSR (51mpx no AA) and A7Rii (42mpx and no AA). I like to print large and crop - typically 48x32. And 2/3 of my effort is landscape and the remainder is big still high contrast (black on white sky grizzlies, moose or white polar bears on bright background).
I use my 5dsr with ts17, ts24 and 24-105/f4 mostly for less challenging locations near the road.
I use the A7Rii with 28-70 and Laowa 15 Shift for long hikes. Sometimes renting Sony 12-24.
I use my 5dsr with my 600f4v2, 200-400, and 100-400 for pursuing large animals
My question here is - I am tempted to buy the R5 because:
Dynamic Range is proported to be 2 stops better than 5dsr - helpful but not necessary because of AEB/blending
I can use adapter with flip in nd to avoid big filters systems on TS17, Ts24 - nice but not necessary
R5 is definitely better than 5DSR (12 fps vs 5, buffer to 87 instead of 15, animal eye following) for large animals
[5DSR histogram by itself is so slow to clear in burst that its practically blind shooting on exposure ]
The R5 with 24-105 non f4 would be >500grams lighter than 5DSR/24-105f4 and comparable to A7R for backpacking
This lets me reduce to one brand and I am not fond of Sony for lots of reasons.[dust performance, menu, 12bit on bulb...]
However, I am not excited by the AA filter. The 45mpx vs 51mpx already reduces resolution by ~5% and then adding the AA filter notionally reduces it another ~10%?.
In a video interview someone (dustin abbot?) indicated that canon was claiming the 45mpx/AA/R5 out resolved the 5DSR 51mpx .
Anyone have knowledge of how 45/AA out resolving 51/no AA could be true theoretically or whether its shows up in data? And whether canon actually said it? [I remember the Nikon d800e (36mpx/no AA) out resolving the d800 (36mpx/AA) by a significant amount in tests which suggests a large loss in resolution with AA]
Maybe the 5DSR AA is thick and reversed and this increases distortion as compared to just 1 thin AA?
I have the 5DSR (51mpx no AA) and A7Rii (42mpx and no AA). I like to print large and crop - typically 48x32. And 2/3 of my effort is landscape and the remainder is big still high contrast (black on white sky grizzlies, moose or white polar bears on bright background).
I use my 5dsr with ts17, ts24 and 24-105/f4 mostly for less challenging locations near the road.
I use the A7Rii with 28-70 and Laowa 15 Shift for long hikes. Sometimes renting Sony 12-24.
I use my 5dsr with my 600f4v2, 200-400, and 100-400 for pursuing large animals
My question here is - I am tempted to buy the R5 because:
Dynamic Range is proported to be 2 stops better than 5dsr - helpful but not necessary because of AEB/blending
I can use adapter with flip in nd to avoid big filters systems on TS17, Ts24 - nice but not necessary
R5 is definitely better than 5DSR (12 fps vs 5, buffer to 87 instead of 15, animal eye following) for large animals
[5DSR histogram by itself is so slow to clear in burst that its practically blind shooting on exposure ]
The R5 with 24-105 non f4 would be >500grams lighter than 5DSR/24-105f4 and comparable to A7R for backpacking
This lets me reduce to one brand and I am not fond of Sony for lots of reasons.[dust performance, menu, 12bit on bulb...]
However, I am not excited by the AA filter. The 45mpx vs 51mpx already reduces resolution by ~5% and then adding the AA filter notionally reduces it another ~10%?.
In a video interview someone (dustin abbot?) indicated that canon was claiming the 45mpx/AA/R5 out resolved the 5DSR 51mpx because of changes in the AA filter.
Anyone have knowledge of how 45/AA out resolving 51/no AA could be true theoretically or whether its shows up in data? And whether canon actually said it? [I remember the Nikon d800e (36mpx/no AA) out resolving the d800 (36mpx/AA) by a significant amount in tests which suggests a large loss in resolution with AA]
Maybe the 5DSR AA is thick and reversed and this increases distortion as compared to just 1 thin AA?
I have the 5DSR (51mpx no AA) and A7Rii (42mpx and no AA). I like to print large and crop - typically 48x32. And 2/3 of my effort is landscape and the remainder is big still high contrast (black on white sky grizzlies, moose or white polar bears on bright background).
I use my 5dsr with ts17, ts24 and 24-105/f4 mostly for less challenging locations near the road.
I use the A7Rii with 28-70 and Laowa 15 Shift for long hikes. Sometimes renting Sony 12-24.
I use my 5dsr with my 600f4v2, 200-400, and 100-400 for pursuing large animals
My question here is - I am tempted to buy the R5 because:
Dynamic Range is proported to be 2 stops better than 5dsr
I can use adapter with flip in nd to avoid big filters systems on TS17, Ts24
R5 is definitely better than 5DSR (12 fps vs 5, buffer to 87 instead of 15, animal eye following) for large animals
[5DSR histogram by itself is so slow to clear in burst that its practically blind shooting on exposure ]
The R5 with 24-105 non f4 would be >500grams lighter than 5DSR/24-105f4 and comparable to A7R for backpacking
This lets me reduce to one brand and I am not fond of Sony for lots of reasons.[dust performance, menu, 12bit on bulb...]
However, I am not excited by the AA filter. The 45mpx vs 51mpx already reduces resolution by ~5% and then adding the AA filter notionally reduces it another ~10%?.
In a video interview someone (dustin abbot?) indicated that canon was claiming the 45mpx/AA/R5 out resolved the 5DSR 51mpx because of changes in the AA filter.
Anyone have knowledge of how 45/AA out resolving 51/no AA could be true theoretically or whether its shows up in data? And whether canon actually said it? [I remember the Nikon d800e (36mpx/no AA) out resolving the d800 (36mpx/AA) by a significant amount in tests which suggests a large loss in resolution with AA]
Maybe the 5DSR AA is thick and reversed and this increases distortion as compared to just 1 thin AA?
I have the 5DSR (51mpx no AA) and A7Rii (42mpx and no AA). I like to print large and crop - typically 48x32. And 2/3 of my effort is landscape and the remainder is big still high contrast (black on white sky grizzlies, moose or white polar bears on bright background).
I use my 5dsr with ts17, ts24 and 24-105/f4 mostly for less challenging locations near the road.
I use the A7Rii with 28-70 and Laowa 15 Shift for long hikes. Sometimes renting Sony 12-24.
I use my 5dsr with my 600f4v2, 200-400, and 100-400 for pursuing large animals
My question here is - I am tempted to buy the R5 because:
Dynamic Range is proported to be 2 stops better than 5dsr
I can use adapter with flip in nd to avoid big filters systems on TS17, Ts24
R5 is definitely better than 5DSR (12 fps vs 5, buffer to 87 instead of 15, animal eye following) for large animals
[5DSR histogram by itself is so slow to clear in burst that its practically blind shooting on exposure ]
The R5 with 24-105 non f4 would be >500grams lighter than 5DSR/24-105f4 and comparable to A7R for backpacking
This lets me reduce to one brand and I am not fond of Sony for lots of reasons.[dust performance, menu, 12bit on bulb...]
However, I am not excited by the AA filter. The 45mpx vs 51mpx already reduces resolution by ~5% and then adding the AA filter notionally reduces it another ~10%?.
In a video interview someone (dustin abbot?) indicated that canon was claiming the 45mpx/AA/R5 out resolved the 5DSR 51mpx because of changes in the AA filter.
Anyone have knowledge of how 45/AA out resolving 51/no AA could be true theoretically or whether its shows up in data? And whether canon actually said it? [I remember the Nikon d800e (36mpc/no AA) out resolving the d800 (36mpx/AA) by a significant amount in tests which suggests a large loss in resolution with AA]
Maybe the 5DSR AA is thick and reversed and this increases distortion as compared to just 1 thin AA?
Jul 10, 2020 at 10:20 AM
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