Fred Miranda wrote: chiron wrote: Duowing wrote:
I'm really interested to see how Sony steps up. I'm really envious of that IBIS if it's as good as they're claiming. That I think is the biggest improvement I would like to see.
Yes, the image stabilization that Canon is claiming (or at least some users of the R5 are claiming) is a very appealing feature. If Canon really has 8 stops combined for lens IS and body IS, that would be quite something and I would really want Sony to answer that for me to be satisfied with them.
I agree that 8-stop IBIS is a very compelling feature. My A7R IV has only 16% more resolution (linear) and offers 5.5 stops of IBIS. The new Canon bodies offers almost 3 extra stops of compensation. How did they do that?
If you shoot video, the new Canon R5 pretty much embarrassed Sony. It's not even close. Perhaps the new A7S III will get closer to Canon's specs. So far we only know that the EVF will be superior.
Aside from the A9 series still staying ahead of the game, Sony will be chasing Canon now. They will have to release a firmware update improving animal AF and improve IBIS and video for their future models.
Sony has a better sports camera (A9II), perhaps a similar spec. video-centric camera - without 8K (A7S III) and a higher resolution body (A7R IV) but Canon was able to combine all these features into one camera. That's very appealing as well. A all-rounder camera!
Ibis stops advertised never equal real stops in reality, from m43 through gfx. They are half of what is advertised at best.
And I find it weird that you think Canon releasing a camera 1 year after the a7riv and 3 years after the a9 means that sony has to "chase" canon. So all the years of being categorically ahead get reset to zero? They don't need to chase anything. They will continue their regular product cycle and surpass Canon again. This is only significant because Canon has been out of the game completely for so long. Is it a good thing to release crap and then something light years better or to continue to release quality improvements without the duds?
Keep in mind that I am not refering to video, as I will never use that. 10% more of the frame has tracking. There is bird eye autofocus and better ibis. There is also cfexpress. But the rolling shutter will be worse, the camera is bulkier, heavier, and well more expensive than the r4. There are very little in terms of lens options, on a closed system with nearly no third party support.
If people want camcorders, for now Panasonic and Canon are the place to go. For those that want stills, there really is nowhere besides Sony.
Fred Miranda wrote: chiron wrote: Duowing wrote:
I'm really interested to see how Sony steps up. I'm really envious of that IBIS if it's as good as they're claiming. That I think is the biggest improvement I would like to see.
Yes, the image stabilization that Canon is claiming (or at least some users of the R5 are claiming) is a very appealing feature. If Canon really has 8 stops combined for lens IS and body IS, that would be quite something and I would really want Sony to answer that for me to be satisfied with them.
I agree that 8-stop IBIS is a very compelling feature. My A7R IV has only 16% more resolution (linear) and offers 5.5 stops of IBIS. The new Canon bodies offers almost 3 extra stops of compensation. How did they do that?
If you shoot video, the new Canon R5 pretty much embarrassed Sony. It's not even close. Perhaps the new A7S III will get closer to Canon's specs. So far we only know that the EVF will be superior.
Aside from the A9 series still staying ahead of the game, Sony will be chasing Canon now. They will have to release a firmware update improving animal AF and improve IBIS and video for their future models.
Sony has a better sports camera (A9II), perhaps a similar spec. video-centric camera - without 8K (A7S III) and a higher resolution body (A7R IV) but Canon was able to combine all these features into one camera. That's very appealing as well. A all-rounder camera!
Ibis stops advertised never equal real stops in reality, from m43 through gfx. They are half of what is advertised at best.
And I find it weird that you think Canon releasing a camera 1 year after the a7riv and 3 years after the a9 means that sony has to "chase" canon. So all the years of being categorically ahead get reset to zero?
Keep in mind that I am not refering to video, as I will never use that. 10% more of the frame has tracking. There is bird eye autofocus and better ibis. There is also cfexpress. But the rolling shutter will be worse, the camera is bulkier, heavier, and well more expensive than the r4. There are very little in terms of lens options, on a closed system with nearly no third party support.
If people want camcorders, for now Panasonic and Canon are the place to go. For those that want stills, there really is nowhere besides Sony.
Jul 09, 2020 at 08:26 PM
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