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Re: Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


tsdevine wrote:

I have 4 primes that cover that range, all with dedicated screw in CPL and ND/CPL filters. (6 if you count the normal range I shoot which is 15 to 35.) I've used the Lee 100 system, found it too fiddly for my tastes. Even the Lee Seven5 system seemed kind of painful. Making sure I don't get reflections, drizzle or spray getting on the polarizer or between the other filters. My favorite place to go is Ricketts Glen, predominantly for day trips. Between work, family and kids....it's hard to get away when weather forecasts are generally unpredictable until the night before. (Even then they're not always right.) Putting together a day where it is cloudy and/or web (but not pouring), low winds, right water flow.....not to mention autumn when you're trying to hit good color that is different towards the top of the mountain than towards the bottom.

Like I said, I'm happy others are happy with that type of setup. For me personally, I just find screw in filters easier to deal with for me in the field. I have no issues with putting that on me......but I know me, I'm not sure I can convince myself again to give it a whirl again. At least for now. It doesn't help that I tend to like primes (again nothing against zooms.)

Just call me weird. Anyway, looks like great glass, no doubt about it.

-Tim


I completely understand the difficulty in squeezing in time for photography between work, family, kids! I'm right there with you.

One thing to note is that with the Nisi system, the CPL is a screw-in filter. You could conceivably just leave it and the mount mounted on the lens all the time. Nisi also sells a huge lens cap that fits over it, so it would essentially replace the OEM Sigma lens cap. Then the primary hassle over the 16-35 as far as the CPL goes is really just that it is so big and bulky, taking up a lot of space in the bag. But in terms of usage it is then a wash. And, TBH, mounting the mount does just take less than a minute. Not really noticeably more of a hassle than, for e.g., taking off the UV filter, putting UV filter back in case, taking CPL out of case, screwing in CPL, making sure CPL is screwed in tight etc. etc. And with the CPL mounted permanently on the mount, and a front cap and rear lens cap, it is a fairly self-contained piece of kit, not as compact as screw-in filters but a lot more compact than you would think a plate filter system would be. I usually carry mine just loose in my camera bag.

In the images below, that large yellow-lined object is the Nisi filter mount with the CPL already mounted. I have a kasemann 100mm Kaiser lens cap as the rear cap and the Nisi cap as the front cap. So, to mount the CPL I just have to remove the caps and mount the filter mount. I could get away with actually leaving the whole thing mounted permanently on the 14-24 if I invested time to reconfigure the dividers in my bag ...





The major discouraging factor is me realizing that I left the filter in my camera bag on the top of the hill while I wandered down "working" the scene and now have to hike all the way up again to get it (with the 82mm filters I usually just slip the case into my cargo pockets) ...



Of course, if you want ND filters, it is a bit more of a hassle, but once you have paid the time/effort cost of mounting the mount, I imagine slipping in an ND plate is actually faster than a screw-in.

I understand, of course, you might have a different perspective and I am not challenging this. Just sharing how I found the CPL usage less of a hassle than I anticipated.



Feb 11, 2020 at 10:52 AM
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Re: Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN first impressions


tsdevine wrote:

I have 4 primes that cover that range, all with dedicated screw in CPL and ND/CPL filters. (6 if you count the normal range I shoot which is 15 to 35.) I've used the Lee 100 system, found it too fiddly for my tastes. Even the Lee Seven5 system seemed kind of painful. Making sure I don't get reflections, drizzle or spray getting on the polarizer or between the other filters. My favorite place to go is Ricketts Glen, predominantly for day trips. Between work, family and kids....it's hard to get away when weather forecasts are generally unpredictable until the night before. (Even then they're not always right.) Putting together a day where it is cloudy and/or web (but not pouring), low winds, right water flow.....not to mention autumn when you're trying to hit good color that is different towards the top of the mountain than towards the bottom.

Like I said, I'm happy others are happy with that type of setup. For me personally, I just find screw in filters easier to deal with for me in the field. I have no issues with putting that on me......but I know me, I'm not sure I can convince myself again to give it a whirl again. At least for now. It doesn't help that I tend to like primes (again nothing against zooms.)

Just call me weird. Anyway, looks like great glass, no doubt about it.

-Tim


I completely understand the difficulty in squeezing in time for photography between work, family, kids! I'm right there with you.

One thing to note is that with the Nisi system, the CPL is a screw-in filter. You could conceivably just leave it and the mount mounted on the lens all the time. Nisi also sells a huge lens cap that fits over it, so it would essentially replace the OEM Sigma lens cap. Then the primary hassle over the 16-35 as far as the CPL goes is really just that it is so big and bulky, taking up a lot of space in the bag. But in terms of usage it is then a wash. And, TBH, mounting the mount does just take less than a minute. Not really noticeably more of a hassle than, for e.g., taking off the UV filter, putting UV filter back in case, taking CPL out of case, screwing in CPL, making sure CPL is screwed in tight etc. etc. And with the CPL mounted permanently on the mount, and a front cap and rear lens cap, it is a fairly self-contained piece of kit, not as compact as screw-in filters but a lot more compact than you would think a plate filter system would be. I usually carry mine just loose in my camera bag.

In the images below, that large yellow-lined object is the Nisi filter mount with the CPL already mounted. I have a kasemann cap as the rear cap and the Nisi cap as the front cap. So, to mount the CPL I just have to remove the caps and mount the filter mount. I could get away with actually leaving the whole thing mounted permanently on the 14-24 if I invested time to reconfigure the dividers in my bag ...





The major discouraging factor is me realizing that I left the filter in my camera bag on the top of the hill while I wandered down "working" the scene and now have to hike all the way up again to get it (with the 82mm filters I usually just slip the case into my cargo pockets) ...



Of course, if you want ND filters, it is a bit more of a hassle, but once you have paid the time/effort cost of mounting the mount, I imagine slipping in an ND plate is actually faster than a screw-in.

I understand, of course, you might have a different perspective and I am not challenging this. Just sharing how I found the CPL usage less of a hassle than I anticipated.



Feb 11, 2020 at 02:48 AM





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