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 Re: Jared - one year in on Z6 / Z7 | |
T-O Shooter wrote:
Lance B wrote:
T-O Shooter wrote:
As he said, you can get great images (as you can with any current body) but it's the misses that's the issue.
The problem is, the "misses" don't affect most people anywhere near as much as he (or most others who want to lambast the Z6/7) think. It just isn't an issue for the 99+% who own the camera. If it does worry them that much, they obviously bought the wrong camera. The lambasters keep trying to harp on one or two points as if this makes the whole camera unusable when in fact it just isn't an issue at all to just about everyone who owns one. It seems as though unless a camera is top of the pile in *every* aspect it can't be taken seriously. So, in order to click bait the *gullible*, they have to be so controversial, so polarizing, that people have to look in order to have an informed opinion in any discussion brought up on the matter because someone with an agenda throws it up on a forum and then ask, "did you watch the video?", if you didn't then you can't argue with what he said or you have your "head in the sand". It's a perfect way to get yourself out there and get click bait. I just wonder why normal, and what I would have thought intelligent people (probably an agenda), fall for this stuff. Make outlandish claims that the gullible fall for and then let it run it's course. Make hyperbolic claims because first impressions are always believed more than reality or any level headed reply as people couldn't be bothered reading any rebuttal of the original claim. It's just so typical of the herd mentality which is so everywhere these days on the net. Not only that, but people want to think they have the best just because some internet screamer says it's so, whether you need it or not is irrelevant and whether it really is or not is also irrelevant, but you can say to your mates, I have the best because some internet nobody says so. Interestingly, the Z's seem to be gaining traction probably due to the fact that people have smartened up and found that just having the best tracking AF isn't as important as having a camera they love to use and gets them fantastic results for things they actually need/want the camera for.
What intrigues me TO, is that you feel the need to keep pushing this agenda as if somehow things will change in your mind. You have already decided that the Z's are definitely *not* for you so what is there in it for you other than to stir up rubbish. You know you are *never* going to buy a Z6/7 so why push this typical click bait. There is *nothing* served by this sort of thing unless you have some interest in it with Jared Polin or have an unfinished agenda. I mean, what can it be so annoying to you about the Zeds that you feel the need to keep harping on about both there and over on DPR. It shouldn't matter to you whether someone likes their Z6/7 better than the D750 or D850 just like I don't care if you like your D850 better than a Z. It also doesn't mean they can't use both either (like me) - you know, "right tool for the job". We get it, we know you don't like the Zeds, just be happy with your beloved D5 and D850 and move on. Others are supremely happy with their Z6/7 and life goes on. Also, being the best at everything doesn't mean the same as best for everyone.
I doubt it's actually true, but I find that your posts come off as aggressive and frankly fanatical. Like everything Nikon is golden and you own shares in it.
You are right - I will never own a Z6 or Z7. They miss too many marks for me. But I am not opposed to a Z6II, Z8 or Z9. I try to keep abreast of the Zee situation. I don't belong to any camp. I pointed out the screwy AF on the D800 (not left AF) before anyone else, as far as I can tell. Nikon is a supplier of product to me, and a supplier of some very good product. But I treat them as a supplier and nothing more. If they sell me something that doesn't meet expectations, someone will know about it. If I walk into Nikon Toronto and they are arrogant and condescending, which is not unlikely, I point it out.
I have no agenda. But if you tell me DSLRs are dead, the Z6/Z7 is golden, F mount lenses are garbage, you know to expect a reply back.
And I don't get it with the likes. It's licking the same fellows over and over like it's a fraternity or something.
Oh what a typical answer.
The reasons my answers to you are aggressive is your tone and opinions are such that aggressiveness sometimes needs to be employed. You seem to illicit that response. Funnily enough you talk about people licking the same fellows over and over like some fraternity, but that is exactly the way you are with your cohorts over on DPR FX forum. Your hypocrisy is amazing here as it is over there.
As far as Nikon fanatical and them being "golden and I must have shares in them", I react to hyperbolic and over the top criticism of Nikon and I would do the same for any brand. However, I do not peruse the other brand's forums to make sure they do not make such hyperbolic claims, I am only interested in Nikon at this point and confine myself there. Funnily enough, I owned a Sigma 35 f1.4 Art and a Tamron 25-30 f2.8 which I thought were way better than their Nikon counterparts at the time and I defended them and espoused their virtues as strongly as I would any Nikon product I own. So, I don't see the "Nikon is golden" issue there. The point is, I make valued judgements on the gear I own and thus I will reason why with strong defense regardless of brand.
I have never also said that DSLR's are dead, that the Z6/7 is golden or the F mounts are garbage. A hyperbolic rant from you similar to the Jared Polin video, no wonder you posted that here to stir up rubbish like your fraternity mate fPrime (and lickitysplit et al) over at DPR. I have always stated that the Z6/7 AF is not as good as the D850 for AF tracking but for just about everything else the Z7 is the equal or better for *my use* and yes a few minor things may be worse, but like any minor foible it is not enbough to be an issue. I have always stated that the D850 is still probably the best overall FF camera you can buy just that that doesn't mean it suits me or everybody else either. Being the best at all things is not the same as being best for all people. In a way, yes, the Z7 is the perfect camera for *me* but I have always pointed out the pros and cons and one of the cons of the Z7 was always that the D850 has better AF tracking, but I can deal with that. If you read into that something different then that is a problem with your mindset and you probably need to deal with that, it is you that has the issue with interpretation, not my writing or beliefs. So, yes you do have an agenda, otherwise you wouldn't be here pushing this video.
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