codename wrote:
I watched this yesterday and appreciated the candor provided. The Z system is on my radar, but this drove home a rule I typically follow: "Don't buy the first generation of anything". This started with cars that came with new engines and transmissions. The general feeling is that the first few years will reveal issues that will need to be corrected (Could be minor fixes or major design flaws).
I don't see it the same way. Now I shoot Canon, but would have bought a Z6 or Z7 if that's the glass I had instead.But buying the first generation of RF mirrorless has a year ahead on lens selections and integration with my DSLR bodies that wouldn't have really been possible to decide otherwise. The gain to my photography really exceeds the entire value of what the body cost me. Actually, I've hardly lost any shots. But even if I lost a bunch, some gained woudn't have existed otherwise. If the Z series can adapt glass as well as Canon, I'm tempted to buy a used Z in a couple years when price drop a good chunk.they still look like they are worth the money.
On another note, I really enjoy Polin's reviews, although Dustin Abbott seems to have the most "smooth sailing ship" when it comes to gear reviews. But I recall Polin doing a total 180 degree turn last year on one or two things that he had not learned before talking, then posted an opposite review following. But he's certainly worth listening to. Likewise, he's proved that he's worth completely doubting if need be.
charles.K wrote: We do NOT need to continually justify our choices to those who have not and probably never use the Nikon camera and lenses being discussed. Move on please ....
I'm guessing you're referring to someone other than Jared Polin, provided I read correctly recently that he's been a heavy-duty Nikon gear guy for quite some time.
codename wrote:
I watched this yesterday and appreciated the candor provided. The Z system is on my radar, but this drove home a rule I typically follow: "Don't buy the first generation of anything". This started with cars that came with new engines and transmissions. The general feeling is that the first few years will reveal issues that will need to be corrected (Could be minor fixes or major design flaws).
I don't see it the same way. Now I shoot Canon, but would have bought a Z6 or Z7 if that's the glass I had instead.But buying the first generation of RF mirrorless has a year ahead on lens selections and integration with my DSLR bodies that wouldn't have really been possible to decide otherwise. The gain to my photography really exceeds the entire value of what the body cost me. Actually, I've hardly lost any shots. But even if I lost a bunch, some gained woudn't have existed otherwise. If the Z series can adapt glass as well as Canon, I'm tempted to buy a used Z in a couple years when price drop a good chunk.they still look like they are worth the money.
On another note, I really enjoy Polin's reviews, although Dustin Abbott seems to have the most "smooth sailing ship" when it comes to gear reviews. But I recall Polin doing a total 180 degree turn last year on one or two things that he had not learned before talking, then posted an opposite review following. But he's certainly worth listening to.
charles.K wrote: We do NOT need to continually justify our choices to those who have not and probably never use the Nikon camera and lenses being discussed. Move on please ....
I'm guessing you're referring to someone other than Jared Polin, provided I read correctly recently that he's been a heavy-duty Nikon gear guy for quite some time.
codename wrote:
I watched this yesterday and appreciated the candor provided. The Z system is on my radar, but this drove home a rule I typically follow: "Don't buy the first generation of anything". This started with cars that came with new engines and transmissions. The general feeling is that the first few years will reveal issues that will need to be corrected (Could be minor fixes or major design flaws).
I don't see it the same way. Now I shoot Canon, but would have bought a Z6 or Z7 if that's the glass I had instead.But buying the first generation of RF mirrorless has a year ahead on lens selections and integration with my DSLR bodies that wouldn't have really been possible to decide otherwise. The gain to my photography really exceeds the entire value of what the body cost me. Actually, I've hardly lost any shots. But even if I lost a bunch, some gained woudn't have existed otherwise. If the Z series can adapt glass as well as Canon, I'm tempted to buy a used Z in a couple years when price drop a good chunk.they still look like they are worth the money.
On another note, I really enjoy Polin's reviews, although Dustin Abbott seems to have the most "smooth sailing ship" when it comes to gear reviews. But I recall Polin doing a total 180 degree turn last year on one or two things that he had not learned before talking, then posted an opposite review following. But he's certainly worth listening to.
codename wrote:
I watched this yesterday and appreciated the candor provided. The Z system is on my radar, but this drove home a rule I typically follow: "Don't buy the first generation of anything". This started with cars that came with new engines and transmissions. The general feeling is that the first few years will reveal issues that will need to be corrected (Could be minor fixes or major design flaws).
I don't fully agree.
Now I shoot Canon, but would have bought a Z6 or Z7 if that's the glass I had instead.
But buying the first generation of RF mirrorless has a year ahead on lens selections and integration with my DSLR bodies that wouldn't have really been possible to decide otherwise. The gain to my photography really exceeds the entire value of what the body cost me. Actually, I've hardly lost any shots. But even if I lost a bunch, some gained woudn't have existed otherwise.
If the Z series can adapt glass as well as Canon, I'm tempted to buy a used Z in a couple years when price drop a good chunk.they still look like they are worth the money.
On another note, I really enjoy Polin's reviews, although Dustin Abbott seems to have the most "smooth sailing ship" when it comes to gear reviews. But I recall Polin doing a total 180 degree turn last year on one or two things that he had not learned before talking, then posted an opposite review following. But he's certainly worth listening to.
codename wrote:
I watched this yesterday and appreciated the candor provided. The Z system is on my radar, but this drove home a rule I typically follow: "Don't buy the first generation of anything". This started with cars that came with new engines and transmissions. The general feeling is that the first few years will reveal issues that will need to be corrected (Could be minor fixes or major design flaws).
I don't fully agree.
Now I shoot Canon, but would have bought a Z6 or Z7 if that's the glass I had instead.
But buying the first generation of RF mirrorless has a year ahead on lens selections and integration with my DSLR bodies that wouldn't have really been possible to decide otherwise. The gain to my photography really exceeds the entire value of what the body cost me. Actually, I've hardly lost any shots. But even if I lost a bunch, some gained woudn't have existed otherwise.
If the Z series can adapt glass as well as Canon, I'm tempted to buy a used Z in a couple years when price drop a good chunk.they still look like they are worth the money.
Dec 30, 2019 at 03:18 AM
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