artsupreme wrote: speedmaster20d wrote: artsupreme wrote: speedmaster20d wrote: artsupreme wrote:
What is a realistic expectation for the 1DXIII MP and fps? Could they deliver 26MP @ 16fps?
I don't think 16 fps will be useful, the mirror blackout time in DSLR's is a given, typically 45-50 msec on the pro models. At 16 fps the total blackout time is 16 x 50 msec = 800 msec in each second of burst. which means when tracking a subject you and the camera are effectively blind almost 80% of the time! It will just lead to more missed shots or redundant frames. When I had a 1DXII I actually dialed it back to 12 fps...seemed to be enough to capture the "peak of action" moment
the only way to go to those high frame rates and still be useful is with the mirror up in LV or in mirror-less cameras... then it becomes a challenge to maintain true 120fps live feed during burst.
Just when I thought I could believe you, Pixel Perfect, and the other guys who claimed 16fps wasn't possible see below. And I'm happy to hear B&H confirm my first post that started this whole thread might be coming a reality. I guess 16fps is possible, but now we wait to see what the MP count is...this camera is looking to be a screamer.
Read what said above, I never said is is impossible where did you see that? I said it is not useful because go the blackout.
I don't believe Canon is going to release a flagship camera that is not useful at 16fps....yes you never said it wasn't possible but shooting it down and saying "the only way to go to those high frame rates and still be useful is with the mirror up in LV" is saying it's not going to work and not going to happen IMO.
Just goes to show you not even the most knowledgeable FM'ers can predict Canon engineering. Never say never, and rumors are rumors until the specs are released.
looks like you're making stuff up again. I never said it is not going to happen I said I don't think it is useful in my opinion. You clearly don't understand the blackout math.
this is what I said
"I don't think 16 fps will be useful, the mirror blackout time in DSLR's is a given, typically 45-50 msec on the pro models. At 16 fps the total blackout time is 16 x 50 msec = 800 msec in each second of burst. which means when tracking a subject you and the camera are effectively blind almost 80% of the time! It will just lead to more missed shots or redundant frames. When I had a 1DXII I actually dialed it back to 12 fps...seemed to be enough to capture the "peak of action" moment "
artsupreme wrote: speedmaster20d wrote: artsupreme wrote: speedmaster20d wrote: artsupreme wrote:
What is a realistic expectation for the 1DXIII MP and fps? Could they deliver 26MP @ 16fps?
I don't think 16 fps will be useful, the mirror blackout time in DSLR's is a given, typically 45-50 msec on the pro models. At 16 fps the total blackout time is 16 x 50 msec = 800 msec in each second of burst. which means when tracking a subject you and the camera are effectively blind almost 80% of the time! It will just lead to more missed shots or redundant frames. When I had a 1DXII I actually dialed it back to 12 fps...seemed to be enough to capture the "peak of action" moment
the only way to go to those high frame rates and still be useful is with the mirror up in LV or in mirror-less cameras... then it becomes a challenge to maintain true 120fps live feed during burst.
Just when I thought I could believe you, Pixel Perfect, and the other guys who claimed 16fps wasn't possible see below. And I'm happy to hear B&H confirm my first post that started this whole thread might be coming a reality. I guess 16fps is possible, but now we wait to see what the MP count is...this camera is looking to be a screamer.
Read what said above, I never said is is impossible where did you see that? I said it is not useful because go the blackout.
I don't believe Canon is going to release a flagship camera that is not useful at 16fps....yes you never said it wasn't possible but shooting it down and saying "the only way to go to those high frame rates and still be useful is with the mirror up in LV" is saying it's not going to work and not going to happen IMO.
Just goes to show you not even the most knowledgeable FM'ers can predict Canon engineering. Never say never, and rumors are rumors until the specs are released.
looks like you're making stuff up again. I never said it is not going to happen I said I don't think it is useful. You clearly don't understand the blackout math.
Oct 24, 2019 at 11:56 AM
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