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Re: which lens has the most 3D POP?


DaveFP wrote:

Also - IMO post-processing to augment that look is not really in line with the original topic.



1. I completely agree, we should try to stick to the original topic - which is not easy. The problem with digital images is that only raw images are not processed and in my perception none of my raw images can trick my brain to see anything like 3d pop.

2. All images here claiming to show 3d pop are jpg's that means all are processed, be it by the software inside the A7 or by additional post processing.

3. To really answer the question if it is the lens producing the 3d pop we have to test it with a film camera on diapositive. I do not shoot film so I cannot test it. But based on the discussions from 40 years ago nobody claimed that his diapositive image shows 3d pop. The discussions were more about colours, light, bokeh.....

4. The conclusion for myself for images in jpg is that for both pictures low in contrast and pictures shot at apertures from 0.9-1.8 I do not see any 3d pop. In pictures with the lens stopped down and everything is in focus I often see some 3d pop. There are many examples of images in the different - post your image - threads here. A nice example is given by Philip_pj's landscape shot with the green trees on page 10 of this topic. Even the example shot with a Huawei Mate 9 by jeffersonjasey on page 7 shows tremendous 3d pop to me.

5. At the end if you believe to see a image has 3d pop you have to know that your brain is tricked as the picture will always be 2d and if you do not see 3d pop in any pictures do not be worried - your brain is immune for being tricked...

It is all about perception and imagination.



Aug 01, 2019 at 09:59 PM
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Re: which lens has the most 3D POP?


DaveFP wrote:

Also - IMO post-processing to augment that look is not really in line with the original topic.



1. I completely agree, we should try to stick to the original topic - which is not easy. The problem with digital images is that only raw images are not processed and in my perception none of my raw images can trick my brain to see anything like 3d pop.

2. All images here claiming to show 3d pop are jpg's that means all are processed, be it by the software inside the A7 or by additional post processing.

3. To really answer the question if it is the lens producing the 3d pop we have to test it with a film camera on diapositive. I do not soot film so I cannot test it. But based on the discussions from 40 years ago nobody claimed that his diapositive image shows 3d pop. The discussions were more about colours, light, bokeh.....

4. The conclusion for myself for images in jpg is that for both pictures low in contrast and pictures shot at apertures from 0.9-1.8 I do not see any 3d pop. In pictures with the lens stopped down and everything is in focus I often see some 3d pop. There are many examples of images in the different - post your image - threads here. A nice example is given by Philip_pj's landscape shot with the green trees on page 10 of this topic. Even the example shot with a Huawei Mate 9 by jeffersonjasey on page 7 shows tremendous 3d pop to me.

5. At the end if you believe to see a image has 3d pop you have to know that your brain is tricked as the picture will always be 2d and if you do not see 3d pop in any pictures do not be worried - your brain is immune for being tricked...

It is all about perception and imagination.



Aug 01, 2019 at 08:46 PM





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