Mathieu18 wrote:
Great, now I want a GFX50R and 45mm... thanks.
You're welcome! But seriously, I think it's a great alternative for those who constantly search for the best lenses for FF, because that will end up being more expensive in the end.
Curious, I think it was you who (correctly IMO) pointed out you don’t need wide open but rather f/3.2-4ish to get a great 3D feel, unless you’re going for the cut out look with a fast lens. How does the Fuji fare in that regard? Say shooting f/4-5?
The reason for it is (was) that many lenses have very nervous rendering wide open, focused at a few meters away. Just like in the images I posted (edit: referring to distance, not nervousness!). Stopping down can make the bokeh better, and of course you get better sharpness as well. If "3D" is what you desire, I personally think it is defeated by a too blurred background. It's got to be just enough.
The GF lenses get better when you stop down, but it's really not necessary. They are great from wide open. The rapid transition to out-of-focus stays all the way to f/16 though, so I have to stop down A LOT if I want everything in focus. But it also means I can get nice separation at f/5.6 or so.
The general rendering is kind of smooth, so for maximum punch and "in your face", they won't beat the Zeiss 35/2 ZF. I've been thinking of getting one again to shoot with a square crop (which I do with the Planar 50/1.4).
Mathieu18 wrote:
Great, now I want a GFX50R and 45mm... thanks.
You're welcome! But seriously, I think it's a great alternative for those who constantly search for the best lenses for FF, because that will end up being more expensive in the end.
Curious, I think it was you who (correctly IMO) pointed out you don’t need wide open but rather f/3.2-4ish to get a great 3D feel, unless you’re going for the cut out look with a fast lens. How does the Fuji fare in that regard? Say shooting f/4-5?
The reason for it is (was) that many lenses have very nervous rendering wide open, focused at a few meters away. Just like in the images I posted. Stopping down can make the bokeh better, and of course you get better sharpness as well. If "3D" is what you desire, I personally think it is defeated by a too blurred background. It's got to be just enough.
The GF lenses get better when you stop down, but it's really not necessary. They are great from wide open. The rapid transition to out-of-focus stays all the way to f/16 though, so I have to stop down A LOT if I want everything in focus. But it also means I can get nice separation at f/5.6 or so.
The general rendering is kind of smooth, so for maximum punch and "in your face", they won't beat the Zeiss 35/2 ZF. I've been thinking of getting one again to shoot with a square crop (which I do with the Planar 50/1.4).
Apr 28, 2019 at 11:44 AM
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But seriously, I think it's a great alternative for those who constantly search for the best lenses for FF, because that will end up being more expensive in the end.