Picture This! wrote:
Would you mind elaborating on the "quirks" with the A7riii that are addressed with the Z7 ? Let's keep ergonomics aside for a minute. I have a smallRig L bracket on my A7riii and have zero complaints about ergonomics with it. Prior to it, yes.
suteetat wrote:
Since I got my Z7, A7r iii has been sitting in my cabinet. I don't see any reason to go back to A7r iii when I use all of my manual lenses anymore but at the moment there is no substitute for its 12-24/4 and 100-400 GM. I think A7r iii is a very capable camera but it is just a tool that I have to put up with for all its quirk. SL is very nice but I sold it a few months ago and have not really missed it.
Although I have to admit that 90-280mm is a phenomenal lens. If I know ahead of time that Sigma is going to release FF Foveon sensor camera with L mount, I might be tempted to keep 90-280
SL has much less bell and whistle than A7r iii and Z7 but it has very solid feel and ergonomic was well thought out and is much more comfortable to use than Leica M for me. Although the grip is big, I think
Leica went a bit too much over the form rather than function as the grip could be better.
Most of my friends prefer M9/M10 color and tonality over SL and most of them ended selling SL and kept the M.
My biggest Sony quirk would be small mirrorless body but big lens. For my personal preference, what is the point of trying to make small body when you have big hugh 35/1.4, 50/1.4, 85/1.4 etc. I certainly scraped my knuckles a few time using 50/1.4 and 85/1.4. Mind you, I have been using Sony since A7r and own all 3 itinerations. Initially I think Sony made a right choice going with 35/2.8, 55/1.8 but then looked like Sony lost its way a bit by going for all the big lenses and not considering how balance the set up is. A7r iii addresses this issue a liitle but not really enough for me. Eventually I stopped buying any more GM lenses and use mostly small manual focus lenses with Sony almost exclusively. 12-24/4 and 100-400 is the exception and the main reason I have not sold my A7r iii(12-24 for quality and size, 100-400 for its exceptional quality) After 3 itinerations, I still find it uncomfortable to use it with big lenses and button layout is still not ideal for me. I still need to take my eye off the EVF often to find buttons unlike Z7 which felt more natural and I adapted to it very quicly. Granted fn1 and 2 took a bit of effort initially but I am used to it now. To my hand, I give Z7 body design a 9/10 but after 3 generations, I would give A7r iii 6/10 at best. Eos R would get 10/10 for body design as far as grip comfort is concern but button layout is just very strange to me. May be if I am more familiar with Canon, I would like it more. SL would be a 7.5 mainly because the grip could be a bit more contoured and while a big chunk of aluminium looks impressive, I just hate to carry around that weight with me all day long.
I dont mind Sony Menu and used to hate flexible focus point on Sony until Sony finally fixed it in mk iii. If Sony makes a bigger body with more space between buttons and substantial grip, I would be very happy.
Dec 11, 2018 at 02:03 AM
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