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 Re: Official Z Series Camera and Lens Discussion | |
1bwana1 wrote:
You realize that you are quoting numbers for press people at a single event. Total sample size, 75 people. This is an infinitesimal small sample that has no relevance to the current market, and even less for the broader market going forward.
The cream of the crop, though (i.e., the ones who matter) ...
1bwana1 wrote:
If you want real, important statistics go look at the recent quarterly results from the major brands. Important stuff there. That is where the World's view
Wrong. Sheer numbers, without regard to quality, is a fool's errand.
There are far more people in the world poor, uneducated, 3rd world, starting individuals ... than comfortable, successful, happy individuals ... but that doesn't mean one should strive for the greater percentage 
Similarly, McDonald's restaurants outsell any 5 class restaurants, but that doesn't mean McDonald's is where you should take your family to eat 
1bwana1 wrote:
Then look at the Current sales numbers for FF ICL cameras. Sony is well in front, and #1 in the World. That is just fact. How do you figure that Nikon adding at a faster rate. Not only are more new FF users not choosing the traditional brands, existing FF camera users are switching.
What a absolutely intellectually-dishonest statement. Those figures were based on the fact Sony was the*ONLY* purveyor of FF Mirrorless cameras, until a month ago  
1bwana1 wrote:
Yes, there are more users of the other brands. They have been selling cameras for decades. Sony became #1 in only 5 years.
Sony is #4, behind Canon, Olympus, and Fuji in ASPC mirrorless camera sales ...
Sony only became #1 in FF mirrorless sales the day they became the ONLY mirrorless FF option
1bwana1 wrote:
I am not trying to promote Sony here, or even say that Sony cameras are better. I am just trying to discuss a major disruption happening in the FF ICL camera industry. Sony just happens to be the protagonist (or antagonist, you pick) in this disruption.
You're just trying to stir the pot, with incomplete information.
As overall camera vendors, Sony is a far distant second to either Nikon or Canon. Sony's participation in world-class events, as a purveyor of the cameras that produced the world class images is virtually nonexistent.
1bwana1 wrote:
My view is that we will look back at this period in the same way we look back at the film/digital disruption. It will be nest for all of us if Nikon, Canon, and others camera companies remain financially healthy and produce great cameras going forward.
Sony is responsible for many elements of positive innovation. They're doing better in gaining ground.
But they are nowhere near #1 in absolutely anything having to do with the finished product photography. Canon and Nikon dwarf Sony in overall user base, and in particular professional user base.
Considering Canon outsells even Nikon 2-1, but Nikon produces the highest quality images in professional competitions, that indicates odds of success in favor of Nikon users. Do the math.
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