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Re: Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Rolling Review


philip_pj wrote:
Always tougher for the fast lenses to measure up to landscape specialists and we see that here. Loxia is a clear victor where it counts, f5.6-f8. Few will shoot deep shots wider than f5.6, having paid up for the best in the mount at this rather important focal length.

You can't see the oft-repeated claim of 'all the same at f8' either, the Loxia powers away. The Sony does best in midzone here, but is humbled in centers and corners - the latter look sad at f5.6. Its res looks edgy (like over-sharpening) wher the Loxia is clean and smooth, Sony hill shadows look muddy. Detail to detail, the Zeiss has better front to back in the crops - see hilltop shrubs at f5.6. Highlights stronger for Loxia.

Some harsh corner CA on the Sony (chimney), all apertures too. Where it appears on the Loxia, just a thin strip. Color, no contest, Sony need to look at this for nature-oriented lenses, it's quite outlandish. Color helps shape the view over the scene, and this uneasy cyan cast is disappointing. It accentuates greens too, which can become astroturf at times. It also loses the critical green-red transitions and adds to apparent UV contamination. Thanks so much. PS Loxia peaks overall at f5.6, I believe, like all CZ slower Distagons.


I can see and appreciate every finely observed point you are making. On the other hand, these images are comparing a lens designed for landscapes to a lens not designed for landscapes by using landscape images at infinity.

On the other hand, if one looks at Fred's Halloween pictures (linked below), which I think are much more the type of images for which a 24mm/1.4 lens is intended, the images are beautiful to look at. Fred thinks they are in rendering and color like the Sony 85mm/1.4 GM, which is high praise. I'm less familiar with the 85/1.4, I think the Sony 24/1.4's rendering of these scenes is similar to what I see in the Sony ZA 35mm/1.4 GM image thread, which is wonderful. The Loxia 25mm, with f/2.5 and manual focus, probably wouldn't do as well making these images, and I'm not sure how its rendering style would compare to the 24/1.4 for this content and lighting.

So, horses for courses.

The link to Fred's Halloween pictures:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1567944/3#14649118



Nov 01, 2018 at 06:22 PM
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Re: Sony FE 24mm f/1.4 GM Rolling Review


philip_pj wrote:
Always tougher for the fast lenses to measure up to landscape specialists and we see that here. Loxia is a clear victor where it counts, f5.6-f8. Few will shoot deep shots wider than f5.6, having paid up for the best in the mount at this rather important focal length.

You can't see the oft-repeated claim of 'all the same at f8' either, the Loxia powers away. The Sony does best in midzone here, but is humbled in centers and corners - the latter look sad at f5.6. Its res looks edgy (like over-sharpening) wher the Loxia is clean and smooth, Sony hill shadows look muddy. Detail to detail, the Zeiss has better front to back in the crops - see hilltop shrubs at f5.6. Highlights stronger for Loxia.

Some harsh corner CA on the Sony (chimney), all apertures too. Where it appears on the Loxia, just a thin strip. Color, no contest, Sony need to look at this for nature-oriented lenses, it's quite outlandish. Color helps shape the view over the scene, and this uneasy cyan cast is disappointing. It accentuates greens too, which can become astroturf at times. It also loses the critical green-red transitions and adds to apparent UV contamination. Thanks so much. PS Loxia peaks overall at f5.6, I believe, like all CZ slower Distagons.


I can see and appreciate every finely observed point you are making. On the other hand, these images are comparing a lens designed for landscapes to a lens not designed for landscapes by using landscape images at infinity.

On the other hand, if one looks at Fred's Halloween pictures (linked below), which I think are much more the type of images for which a 24mm/1.4 lens is intended, the images are beautiful to look at. Fred thinks they are in rendering like the Sony 85mm/1.4 GM, which is very high praise. I'm less familiar with the 85/1.4, I think the Sony 24/1.4's rendering of these scenes is similar to what I see in the Sony ZA 35mm/1.4 GM image thread, which is wonderful. The Loxia 25mm, with f/2.5 and manual focus, probably wouldn't do as well making these images, and I'm not sure how its rendering style would compare to the 24/1.4 for this content and lighting.

So, horses for courses.

The link to Fred's Halloween pictures:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1567944/3#14649118



Nov 01, 2018 at 06:21 PM





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