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Neutral shooter here. I shoot Leica and have Sony cameras but I don't like Sony menus.

I was kind of deciding if I should switch from A7 range to a Z6. After reading up on reviews, I bought a A7iii, love the eye AF (coming from rangefinder - its like god sent )

Why I was interested in Nikon Z? Top LCD - love it. Nikon dials and functions are similar to Nikon DSLR - I am familiar with Nikon from my DSLR days. Cons - no native lenses yet. Battery life not known (mix reports). Video shooting capability unknown with N log. The official Nikon video is really poorly graded with blown highlights all over the place, although the skin tones looked pretty decent. They should take the video down and redo it. Check it out yourself:



So I went with a A7iii to replace my A7s2. pros- this is mk3, they have refined the product and made improvements, especially for video shooters, you can use the same custom key but assign different functions for both stills and video on the same button, very important for me as the priority for stills and video are different for WB, focus, zebras, picture profiles, etc. Con's? Sony will probably come up with Mk4 before I can finish reading the manual or learning the menu.

As in many reviews you read online, the first group of customers going for the Z series will likely be Nikon shooters looking for a mirrorless / smaller alternative to shoot their Nikon lenses. For someone in the market for a mirrorless full frame kit right now, Sony seems to make more sense.

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Looking at some of the post on this thread, I made Eye AF test with my Sony 85 1.8 lens. Like others said, put it to continuous AF, map eye AF to AEL button(or to the button on the lens), camera tracks the closest eye of subject very quickly. It did not work on my kids' soft toys with black plastic round eyes, but it could lock to a mannequin with realistic eyes. When subject turns away perpendicular, with only cheek showing (eye not visible), AF point still locks to side of face/ cheek closes to the eye that was in focus. When subject turns back, it keeps focus locked on eye. If subject turned with back of head visible (no visible cheek), it loses focus. When subject turns back to me, it tracks the closest eye again. I had my thumb on the AEL button all the time.

Tried again with two subjects in frame, first, it locked to the nearest eye of to the subject nearest to me. When subject turned away, the AF point moved to the second subject's eye. When first subject turned back to me, the AF point did not switch back to first subject. I haven't checked if you could set face priority wit Eye AF.

When I tried eye AF with my Sony 28/2 at about 6ft away, AF locked to face but did not switch to eye AF, but I guess 6ft @ f/2, all of the face will be in focus anyway.

For me, faster AF and larger battery made it easy to upgrade from previous iterations of the A7. Gone are the days where I have to carry 6-7 batteries for my A7sii for my kind of shooting (and have to rotate or recharge them when I get home).




Aug 31, 2018 at 02:06 PM
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Neutral shooter here. I shoot Leica and have Sony cameras but I don't like Sony menus.

I was kind of deciding if I should switch from A7 range to a Z6. After reading up on reviews, I bought a A7iii, love the eye AF (coming from rangefinder - its like god sent )

Why I was interested in Nikon Z? Top LCD - love it. Nikon dials and functions are similar to Nikon DSLR - I am familiar with Nikon from my DSLR days. Cons - no native lenses yet. Battery life not known (mix reports). Video shooting capability unknown with N log. The official Nikon video is really poorly graded with blown highlights all over the place, although the skin tones looked pretty decent. They should take the video down and redo it. Check it out yourself:



So I went with a A7iii to replace my A7s2. pros- this is mk3, they have refined the product and made improvements, especially for video shooters, you can use the same custom key but assign different functions for both stills and video on the same button, very important for me as the priority for stills and video are different for WB, focus, zebras, picture profiles, etc. Con's? Sony will probably come up with Mk4 before I can finish reading the manual or learning the menu.

As in many reviews you read online, the first group of customers going for the Z series will likely be Nikon shooters looking for a mirrorless / smaller alternative to shoot their Nikon lenses. For someone in the market for a mirrorless full frame kit right now, Sony seems to make more sense.

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Looking at some of the post on this thread, I made Eye AF test with my Sony 85 1.8 lens. Like others said, put it to continuous AF, map eye AF to AEL button(or to the button on the lens), camera tracks the closest eye of subject very quickly. It did not work on my kids' soft toys with black plastic round eyes, but it could lock to a mannequin with realistic eyes. When subject turns away perpendicular, with only cheek showing (eye not visible), AF point still locks to side of face/ cheek closes to the eye that was in focus. When subject turns back, it keeps focus locked on eye. If subject turned with back of head visible (no visible cheek), it loses focus. When subject turns back to me, it tracks the closest eye again. I had my thumb on the AEL button all the time.

Tried again with two subjects in frame, first, it locked to the nearest eye of to the subject nearest to me. When subject turned away, he AF point moved to the second subject's eye. When first subject turned back to me, the AF point did not switch back to first subject. I haven't checked if you could set face priority wit Eye AF.

When I tried eye AF with my Sony 28/2 at about 6ft away, AF locked to face but did not switch to eye AF, but I guess 6ft @ f/2, all of the face will be in focus anyway.

For me, faster AF and larger battery made it easy to upgrade from previous iterations of the A7. Gone are the days where I have to carry 6-7 batteries for my A7sii for my kind of shooting (and have to rotate or recharge them when I get home).




Aug 31, 2018 at 02:04 PM
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Re: Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


Neutral shooter here. I shoot Leica and have Sony cameras but I don't like Sony menus.

I was kind of deciding if I should switch from A7 range to a Z6. After reading up on reviews, I bought a A7iii, love the eye AF (coming from rangefinder - its like god sent )

Why I was interested in Nikon Z? Top LCD - love it. Nikon dials and functions are similar to Nikon DSLR - I am familiar with Nikon from my DSLR days. Cons - no native lenses yet. Battery life not known (mix reports). Video shooting capability unknown with N log. The official Nikon video is really poorly graded with blown highlights all over the place, although the skin tones looked pretty decent. They should take the video down and redo it. Check it out yourself:



So I went with a A7iii to replace my A7s2. pros- this is mk3, they have refined the product and made improvements, especially fore video shooters, you can use the same custom key but assign different functions for both stills and video on the same button, very important for me as the priority for stills and video are different for WB, focus, zebras, picture profiles, etc. Con's? Sony will probably come up with Mk4 before I can finish reading the manual or learning the menu.

As in many reviews you read online, the first group of customers going for the Z series will likely be Nikon shooters looking for a mirrorless / smaller alternative to shoot their Nikon lenses. For someone in the market for a mirrorless full frame kit right now, Sony seems to make more sense.

------
Looking at some of the post on this thread, I made Eye AF test with my Sony 85 1.8 lens. Like others said, put it to continuous AF, map eye AF to AEL button(or to the button on the lens), camera tracks the closest eye of subject very quickly. It did not work on my kids' soft toys with black plastic round eyes, but it could lock to a mannequin with realistic eyes. When subject turns away perpendicular, with only cheek showing (eye not visible), AF point still locks to side of face/ cheek closes to the eye that was in focus. When subject turns back, it keeps focus locked on eye. If subject turned with back of head visible (no visible cheek), it loses focus. When subject turns back to me, it tracks the closest eye again. I had my thumb on the AEL button all the time.

Tried again with two subjects in frame, first, it locked to the nearest eye of to the subject nearest to me. When subject turned away, he AF point moved to the second subject's eye. When first subject turned back to me, the AF point did not switch back to first subject. I haven't checked if you could set face priority wit Eye AF.

When I tried eye AF with my Sony 28/2 at about 6ft away, AF locked to face but did not switch to eye AF, but I guess 6ft @ f/2, all of the face will be in focus anyway.

For me, faster AF and larger battery made it easy to upgrade from previous iterations of the A7. Gone are the days where I have to carry 6-7 batteries for my A7sii for my kind of shooting (and have to rotate or recharge them when I get home).




Aug 31, 2018 at 01:36 PM





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