Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread
mcbroomf wrote:
As a resource it's probably good to have this doc available, even though it's obviously marketing. Some good info on the design features though;
Since I started the thread, at least I’d like contribute some of my thought.
1. Price: I think Z7 is overpriced about $200~$400 and Z6 is underpriced about that amount. This may have something to do with latest A7III introduction. Nikon cut here and paste there. I predict Z7 price will go down at Christmas already.
2. About Z6: For most people, Z6 seems a very solid offer at good price. It offer best class viewing experience on both EVF and LCD, best class video performance (only fall short to some m4/3 offer) with the same top class build as Z7. Read the fine spec, I noticed it miss 5X4 crop mode but do have 1X1 and DX format. I don’t know if it is a typo or Nikon purposely crimp it. It is unfortunate a format I used often. For video, many people might prefer oversampled full frame 4K than Z7’s super 35 format.
3. Compare Z7 to Z6, Z6 is good enough for me for most things I plan use. If they are offered at the same time, I might have ordered Z6. The obvious reason to choose Z7 over Z6 would be resolution and resolution only. This again makes Z6 an awesome value. For myself, I use prime most of time, (so crop is a way to get reach for composition purpose) and I use 4X5, 1X1 mode all the time. In additional Z7 offered Mraw and Sraw at higher res. That means I can have the choice to scale down if I want but not other way around. I use that also for my family images, I don’t need 45M to document life. In recent Iceland trip, I use D850 DX mode for puffin shooting with landscape lens 70-200f4, get many perfectly BIF images. As a nonbird shooter, having this once a while option seems worth the premium for me.
4. About preorder. In digital age, I feel preorder actually a way to save money if you are not plan to buy used or older generation camera. For example, I pre-ordered D850 and get it in hand within a month. I can sell it at profit if it doesn’t fit me . (I would never do that in here FM though) Now 2nd price already went down about 300~500 if you buy new now. Don’t forget you have used it for about 1 year, which is long for digital age. Leica M is notoriously hard to get at introduction. For a camera life span about 3~4 years, one year is quarter of its value to me. For certain camera and lensed such as Leica S, I am willing to wait to get old generation stuff because they are out of my price range.
5. About this intro. I give Nikon 80 out 100 point for the product, and 50 out 100 for the marketing. I predict it will be a fairly successful introduction. Many like me have good faith about Nikon based on past experience. They know how to make a good camera and they share some of my philosophy about image taking device. Many photographers don’t post or make noise about deficient spec but know what they want.
Maybe in next post, I will share my personal view about Z7, its merits and flaws by go over the spec sheet and initial DP review article and also my personal experience with their DSLR. (DPREVIEW preview is the only one I feel it is trustable so far) I may well found some of them are fetal once the camera in hand. If it is bad enough, I would not keep it. There is only one way to find out if it suit you.
Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread
mcbroomf wrote:
As a resource it's probably good to have this doc available, even though it's obviously marketing. Some good info on the design features though;
Since I started the thread, at least I’d like contribute some of my thought.
1. Price: I think Z7 is overpriced about $200~$400 and Z6 is underpriced about that amount. This may have something to do with latest A7III introduction. Nikon cut here and paste there. I predict Z7 price will go down at Christmas already.
2. About Z6: For most people, Z6 seems a very solid offer at good price. It offer best class viewing experience on both EVF and LCD, best class video performance (only fall short to some m4/3 offer) with the same top class build as Z7. Read the fine spec, I noticed it miss 5X4 crop mode but do have 1X1 and DX format. I don’t know if it is a typo or Nikon purposely crimp it. It is unfortunate a format I used often. For video, many people might prefer full frame 4K than Z7’s super 35 format.
3. Compare Z7 to Z6, Z6 is good enough for me for most things I plan use. If they are offered at the same time, I might have ordered Z6. The obvious reason to choose Z7 over Z6 would be resolution and resolution only. This again makes Z6 an awesome value. For myself, I use prime most of time, (so crop is a way to get reach for composition purpose) and I use 4X5, 1X1 mode all the time. In additional Z7 offered Mraw and Sraw at higher res. That means I can have the choice to scale down if I want but not other way around. I use that also for my family images, I don’t need 45M to document life. In recent Iceland trip, I use D850 DX mode for puffin shooting with landscape lens 70-200f4, get many perfectly BIF images. As a nonbird shooter, having this once a while option seems worth the premium for me.
4. About preorder. In digital age, I feel preorder actually a way to save money if you are not plan to buy used or older generation camera. For example, I pre-ordered D850 and get it in hand within a month. I can sell it at profit if it doesn’t fit me . (I would never do that in here FM though) Now 2nd price already went down about 300~500 if you buy new now. Don’t forget you have used it for about 1 year, which is long for digital age. Leica M is notoriously hard to get at introduction. For a camera life span about 3~4 years, one year is quarter of its value to me. For certain camera and lensed such as Leica S, I am willing to wait to get old generation stuff because they are out of my price range.
5. About this intro. I give Nikon 80 out 100 point for the product, and 50 out 100 for the marketing. I predict it will be a fairly successful introduction. Many like me have good faith about Nikon based on past experience. They know how to make a good camera and they share some of my philosophy about image taking device. Many photographers don’t post or make noise about deficient spec but know what they want.
Maybe in next post, I will share my personal view about Z7, its merits and flaws by go over the spec sheet and initial DP review article and also my personal experience with their DSLR. (DPREVIEW preview is the only one I feel it is trustable so far) I may well found some of them are fetal once the camera in hand. If it is bad enough, I would not keep it. There is only one way to find out if it suit you.
Aug 27, 2018 at 12:44 PM
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. (I would never do that in here FM though) Now 2nd price already went down about 300~500 if you buy new now. Don’t forget you have used it for about 1 year, which is long for digital age. Leica M is notoriously hard to get at introduction. For a camera life span about 3~4 years, one year is quarter of its value to me. For certain camera and lensed such as Leica S, I am willing to wait to get old generation stuff because they are out of my price range.