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kosin wrote:
Chimping wrote:
kosin wrote:
Chimping wrote:
Canon has offered to replace Arthur Morris' camera with a brand new unit. Unfortunately, I doubt the new unit will be any better. I suspect he will just sell it, as he's using his 5DIVs almost exclusively now without any problems.
Just read Art's comments about the 1DXII. It looks like it took some time for Canon to replace his camera...
As for his use of 5DIV's, he said long time ago that the older he gets, he prefers smaller cameras and smaller/lighter lenses. Also, he is well known on favoring the newest bodies from Canon. Not to long ago, he was praising 5DsR, 7DII etc. Why? He has large following and a lot of people view him as a "grandfather" of bird photography. In their mind, whatever he says, is true. Therefore he sees large market and easy way of making money by selling his "AF guides" for each camera body. Each costs $50. Not to long ago, he started to push AF micro adjustment like it was the newest and the greatest thing to improve your shots. As many of you know, AF micro adjustments were discussed to death here on FM, and other forums, and I bet there is more detailed information here for free. But for him, it was yet another way of getting money from his followers. And guess what? His guide to AF micro adjustment also cost $50!  My point being, don't believe in everything he does, especially for his camera recommendations. He does it for one reason only. To get your money.
You really are the king of dismissal, aren't you? You dismissed the oil splatter, and you dismissed the sensor lines as possibly being a result of DPAF. Now you're dismissing Arthur for his guides and the way he makes money (ad hominem, much?)
I have exchanged dozens of e-mails with Arthur; I was cc'd into practically all his correspondence with Canon over these 1DX Mark II issues, and I spoke on the phone to the exact Canon representative he was dealing with at CanonUSA, and I forwarded all the RAWs I've collected to her. I saw through e-mails and heard on the phone Canon's dismissal of his issues. Now Canon has caved somewhat, which in large part, I believe, is because of the growing dissatisfaction that is being publicly disseminated about this camera and the fear of future blog posts from him.
I like how in order to disparage Arthur's credibility you turn to how he makes his money. So what if there is more information on AF tuning on this forum? Dozens and dozens of photographers sell guides on either fine tuning their equipment or proper photographic technique. There is free information everywhere in today's world. People pay for information to get it in a well laid out fashion and from a trusted source. There's absolutely nothing wrong wth that. It's why Jared Polin, Chelsea & Tony Northrup, and Michael the Maven, to name just a few, have large followers too. People pay for Arthur's expertise in his field. You can get your information elsewhere for free if you so choose. I'd also like to point out he posts valuable information for free in his educational blog posts, which he has been doing now for several hundred days in a row.
Selling guides and making recommendations on equipment does not delegitimize any of the problems Arthur experienced with his 1DX Mark II camera whatsoever. His 5% fee for helping members sell their gear is also fair, in my opinion. Try taking your gear to any camera store and see what they take off the top. If you want to sell your gear quickly and have maximum visibility, you pay. It's as simple and as fair as that.
As far as his camera recommendations go, well guess what? Usually the newest equipment is the best and most refined. The 5DIV is the only full frame camera Canon offers with any sort of buffer, other than the 1DX Mark II. It also has the best dynamic range of any Canon camera to date, and shares the new 1DX Mark II autofocusing system. It is easy to see why he switched from the 5DsR to the 5DIV for bird photography. Again, your arguments are to disparage and not based in reality:
Arthur Morris:
I went to using my two 5D Mark IV bodies almost exclusively, at least for a while. But tempted by that blazing frame rate, I used my 1D X II a bit in January. Fairly soon I noticed more sensor dust than expected and worse yet, some additional oil spatter. So I sent the camera back to Canon for another cleaning–not sure if that was cleaning #2 or #3 but I think that it was #3. When I got the camera back I clicked off a few frames and then did an f/22 sensor dust test and saved the results (seen above at 200%). “A,” circled above in red, is good old fashioned sensor dust, albeit a good-sized chunk. One might think that a sensor should be perfect after a cleaning but small chunks of whatever are often dislodged when the shutter fires. What really worries me is the stuff circled in blue. They are to my mind surely oil spatter.
I have no doubt Artie would still be using his 1DX Mark II if it were not for its glaring issues. The fact Arthur had to wait from April to December to get anywhere at all with Canon is illustrative of Canon's unscrupulous behaviour.
How people can defend this kind of behaviour from Canon, especially regarding tools you paid for out of your own pockets and use for work, is beyond me. Anyone looking at RAWs taken from the 1DX Mark II model will see they all have excessive oil splatter, especially in the top-left of the frame. At this point people saying this is a none-issue are defending the indefensible.
You are taking it too personally, my friend. I'm not trying to "disparage Arthur's credibility" at all. My comments on how he makes money were made only on his camera choice not the oil splatter issue. I've read this multiple times about him, and over the years its been proven true. With every new Canon camera release, there is Art pushing it. First, to help Canon to sell it and to keep good relations with them, second to write another guide and make money. Don't you think he could easily write a guide for 1DXII, 5DIV, 7DII combined and sell it as one? Their AF setup is almost the same. Others did it, why can't he? Because he is trying to take as much $$ from his "blind" followers as he can! Have you ever purchased a guide from him? If so, which one?
Don't take my word for it. Just see what is going to happen next time Canon releases a new camera. Either 7DIII or 5DsR II. Just watch and take notes...
Does he provide help and knowledge to others? Absolutely. But I hate to see when people are being taken advantage off! Especially, novice photographers. When I find more time, I will look for his post where he specifically wrote that he is being tired of larger/heavier cameras (1DX) and prefers 5D like bodies. His reasoning of shooting 5D series and not the oil splatter issue.
But please, do not try to convince me that it is OK for him to charge 5% fee. For me it is clear rip off and taking advantage of people that do not know better. I would rather pay this commission here on FM, as this forum gives people more information than he does. If you are so OK with giving your money anyway, why aren't you supporting Fred Miranda? You are here more often than on Art's website as of late. I don't see you requesting RAW files from Art's followers. You are gaining more from this forum than from him. Come on, support Fred! https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/upload-sell.php
I didn't dismiss the oil splatter as a non-existent. I simply wasn't aware of it and even though I know about it now, it still doesn't bother me. It takes me quicker to clean the sensor than to write a reply to your comments  And if you read through this thread once again, you will find that most of the people don't have an issue with it either. Not to mention the "line issue". I only suggested that it may be caused by DPAF. Simple suggestion where to look for it, not to dismiss anything. Geez... To me, it is starting to look like you either don't read responses thoroughly with your emotions taking over or you are trying to fit everyones mind to your way of thinking. Ain't gonna work...
Kosin:
I am not trying to “disparage Arthur’s credibility at all”
No? Then why even bother bringing up his guides and the information he sells. I simply said he would be selling his 1DX Mark II and using his 5DIVs exclusively. That spawned your little rant on his “greed”. Why bring up his “greed” at all if you’re not trying to discredit his motives?
Furthermore, why did you make this comment:
Kosin:
As for his use of 5DIV’s, I bet if he was shooting more action, aka birds in flight, his camera choice would be different. For shots of gulls on the parking lot, 5DIV does well indeed
You are literally trying to mock the man here. Nice…
Kosin:
I will look for his post where he specifically wrote that he is being tired of larger/heavier cameras (1DX) and prefers 5D like bodies. His reasoning of shooting 5D series and not the oil splatter issue.
As my quote from him in my previous post shows, he was still willing to use his 1DX Mark II along side his other cameras. And, according to my e-mail correspondence he stopped using it because of oil, had Canon change the sensor under warranty, and still had the camera exhibit oil splatter. Artie was then fighting with Canon over a replacement camera ever since, while all Canon would offer is more free cleanings.
Kosin:
With every new Canon camera release, there is Art pushing it.
You are stating the obvious. In fact, your comment is trite and beyond ignorant.
Why does this offend you? Like practically every professional photographer, or gear enthusiast, out there that likes to upgrade/compare to last generation tech, it offends you that Arthur pushes the latest technology to his readership? My God, man. I guess Randy Rouse is a hack then too in your eyes, am I right? Same goes for Michael the Maven, Tony Northrup, Jared Polin, Toby, Matt Granger, Scott Kelby, etc. All greedy, I guess. Right? They all sell something and they all push and review new gear, so obviously their motivated by greed and taking advantage of people!!!
Arthur makes no bones about what he does. As you pointed out, he acquires new gear as it’s released and tries it out. He’s in a great position to do that and many people appreciate his input. Now that Canon, for example, hasn’t put anything new out for awhile, Arthur repeatedly states (practically under every photo he posts) that the 5DIV is his favourite bird camera. If you read his responses to the comments his readers leave, he gives very detailed breakdowns on the each camera model and what may suit them the best.
Kosin:
Don’t take my word for it. Just see what is going to happen next time Canon releases a new camera. Either 7DIII or 5DsR II. Just watch and take notes…
Yeah, I’ll watch and take notes as he reviews those cameras, just like practically every other professional photographer who wants the newest and best equipment for the job, or the YouTuber or online reviewer that has a stake in the photography community. Again, duh!!
Kosin:
…I hate to see when people are being taken advantage off!
Funny, me too! That’s why I am trying to hold Canon to account for releasing a shoddy product, knowing about its issues, and refusing to do anything about it.
You don’t seem to care about that though, because the issues don’t personally bother you. For some reason, however, Arthur Morris making guides and selling them upsets you more.
Let me ask you something — which venture is more innocent and honest: Arthur selling guides, OR a big company like Canon knowing they have a problem with one of their products, screwing their customers around when they bring the problem to their attention, all while continuing to sell the faulty product without blinking an eye?
At the end of the day, what’s your purpose pal? You’re telling me that I am taking things too personally, yet you mock and disparage someone’s credibility when they clearly have way more skill and notoriety than you, and you dismiss peoples’ troubles by stating that, even though you now know about the issues, “they still don’t bother” you because you can clean your own sensor. You’re obviously better at owning professional equipment than us, since you can do the maintenance yourself regularly and better than the Canon technicians without worry. So, why keep coming back? This seems more like a personal thing for you.
Kosin:
Ain’t gonna work
Frankly, I’ve already wasted too much time on you to respond to every one of your off-topic points or passive aggressive japes, especially the ones made to bait me into a juvenile argument over the purchase of guides and selling fees. You’ve contributed nothing of substance, and I doubt anything would “work” on you, to be honest. Glad you’re happy with the 1DX Mark II. Despite your claim regarding this thread, many people are not happy and genuinely want a fix.
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