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Re: Anyone else tempted by the D850?


therealthings wrote:
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A few months back I had an opportunity to shoot with a Nikon D5 and 600FL, I compared it to my 1DXII and 600II, while it was significantly better than the Nikon's I had tried in the past and I made some good frame with it, I can't say I was impressed with the results.

Usually switching systems (either side) is a waste of money and will not make you a better photographer.


Did you find Nikons AF better than the 1dxII? I just keep wondering if Nikons 3D AF system is more advanced than Canon, resulting in more keepers when shooting action. Would like to hear your opinion about this.



Hi,

I did not find the combination of the Nikon D5 with the 600FL to give more keepers than the Canon 1DXII and 600II. It is important to realize that with any camera, Nikon or Canon, if you let the camera decide and choose one of the entire AF array the AF will latch to the BG when photographing challenging BIF against any kind of varied BG, so the "3D tracking" in Nikon is just as useless as "iTR" in Canon and I don't expect any such system to work for the type of photos I like to take. The most productive method for photographing BIF is to use the center AF expansion for either camera so that it is forced to focus where you want it to focus.

Initially the D5 seemed to hold focus better when the bird was changing direction but upon close inspection on my computer, many of those shots were not what I'd call tack sharp compared to my Canon files, they were slightly soft which makes it unacceptable to me. I also found that the Nikon couldn't quite keep up with the bird coming at you at high speed where as the 1DXII would often nail at least a couple of those shots (e.g. below).

The Nilkon system falls apart quickly when you throw in a TC, whereas the Canon system does not care if a TC is attached, many if not most of my photographs are taken with a TC. So as a bird photographer, if I were to start today, I would again choose Canon without thinking twice but I will always keep my options open, if Nikon get's the job done better I have no problem buying an entire Nikon system.





Aug 24, 2017 at 02:59 PM
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Re: Anyone else tempted by the D850?


therealthings wrote:
speedmaster20d wrote:


A few months back I had an opportunity to shoot with a Nikon D5 and 600FL, I compared it to my 1DXII and 600II, while it was significantly better than the Nikon's I had tried in the past and I made some good frame with it, I can't say I was impressed with the results.

Usually switching systems (either side) is a waste of money and will not make you a better photographer.


Did you find Nikons AF better than the 1dxII? I just keep wondering if Nikons 3D AF system is more advanced than Canon, resulting in more keepers when shooting action. Would like to hear your opinion about this.



Hi,

I did not find the combination Nikon D5 with the 600FL to give more keepers than the Canon 1DXII and 600II. It is important to realize that with any camera, Nikon or Canon, if you let the camera decide and choose one of the entire AF array the AF will latch to the BG when photographing challenging BIF against any kind of varied BG, so the "3D tracking" in Nikon is just as useless as "iTR" in Canon and I don't expect any such system to work for the type of photos I like to take. The most productive method for photographing BIF is to use the center AF expansion for either camera so that it is forced to focus where you want it to focus.

Initially the D5 seemed to hold focus better when the bird was changing direction but upon close inspection on my computer, many of those shots were not what I'd call tack sharp compared to my Canon files, they were slightly soft which makes it unacceptable to me. I also found that the Nikon couldn't quite keep up with the bird coming at you at high speed where as the 1DXII would often nail at least a couple of those shots (e.g. below).

The Nilkon system falls apart quickly when you throw in a TC, whereas the Canon system does not care if a TC is attached, many if not most of my photographs are taken with a TC. So as a bird photographer, if I were to start today, I would again choose Canon without thinking twice but I will always keep my options open, if Nikon get's the job done better I have no problem buying an entire Nikon system.





Aug 24, 2017 at 02:58 PM
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Re: Anyone else tempted by the D850?


therealthings wrote:
speedmaster20d wrote:


A few months back I had an opportunity to shoot with a Nikon D5 and 600FL, I compared it to my 1DXII and 600II, while it was significantly better than the Nikon's I had tried in the past and I made some good frame with it, I can't say I was impressed with the results.

Usually switching systems (either side) is a waste of money and will not make you a better photographer.


Did you find Nikons AF better than the 1dxII? I just keep wondering if Nikons 3D AF system is more advanced than Canon, resulting in more keepers when shooting action. Would like to hear your opinion about this.



Hi,

I did not find the combination Nikon D5 with the 600FL to give more keepers than the Canon 1DXII and 600II. It is important to realize that with any camera, Nikon or Canon, if you let the camera decide and choose one of the entire AF array the AF will latch to the BG when photographing challenging BIF against any kind of varied BG, so the "3D tracking" in Nikon is just as useless as "iTR" in Canon and I don't expect any such system to work for the type of photos I like to take. The most productive method for photographing BIF is to use the center AF expansion for either camera so that it is forced to focus where you want it to focus.

Initially the D5 seemed to hold focus better when the bird was changing direction but upon close inspection on my computer, many of those shots were not what I'd call tack sharp compared to my Canon files, they were slightly soft which makes it unacceptable to me. I also found that the Nikon couldn't quite keep up with the bird coming at you at high speed where as the 1DXII would often nail at least a couple of those shots (e.g. below).

The Nilkon system falls apart quickly when you throw in a TC, whereas the Canon system does not care if a TC is attached, many if not most of my photographs are taken with a TC. So in short if I were to start today, I would again choose Canon without thinking twice but I will always keep my mind open, if it get's the job done better I have no problem buying an entire Nikon system.





Aug 24, 2017 at 02:57 PM
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Re: Anyone else tempted by the D850?


therealthings wrote:
speedmaster20d wrote:


A few months back I had an opportunity to shoot with a Nikon D5 and 600FL, I compared it to my 1DXII and 600II, while it was significantly better than the Nikon's I had tried in the past and I made some good frame with it, I can't say I was impressed with the results.

Usually switching systems (either side) is a waste of money and will not make you a better photographer.


Did you find Nikons AF better than the 1dxII? I just keep wondering if Nikons 3D AF system is more advanced than Canon, resulting in more keepers when shooting action. Would like to hear your opinion about this.



Hi,

I did not find the combination Nikon D5 with the 600FL to give more keepers than the Canon 1DXII and 600II. It is important to realize that with any camera, Nikon or Canon, if you let the camera decide and choose one of the entire AF array the AF will latch to the BG when photographing challenging BIF against any kind of varied BG, so the "3D tracking" in Nikon is just as useless as "iTR" in Canon and I don't expect any such system to work for the type of photos I like to take. The most productive method for photographing BIF is to use the center AF expansion for either camera so that it is forced to focus where you want it to focus.

Initially the D5 seemed to hold focus better when the bird was changing direction but upon close inspection on my computer, many of those shots were not what I'd call tack sharp compared to my Canon files, they were slightly soft which makes it unacceptable to me. I also found that the Nikon couldn't quite keep up with the bird coming at you at high speed where as the 1DXII would often nail at least a couple of those shots (e.g. below).

The Nilkon system falls apart quickly when you throw in a TC, whereas the Canon system does not care if a TC is attached, many if not most of my photographs are taken with a TC.





Aug 24, 2017 at 02:54 PM
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Re: Anyone else tempted by the D850?


therealthings wrote:
speedmaster20d wrote:


A few months back I had an opportunity to shoot with a Nikon D5 and 600FL, I compared it to my 1DXII and 600II, while it was significantly better than the Nikon's I had tried in the past and I made some good frame with it, I can't say I was impressed with the results.

Usually switching systems (either side) is a waste of money and will not make you a better photographer.


Did you find Nikons AF better than the 1dxII? I just keep wondering if Nikons 3D AF system is more advanced than Canon, resulting in more keepers when shooting action. Would like to hear your opinion about this.



Hi,

I did not find the combination Nikon D5 with the 600FL to give more keepers than the Canon 1DXII and 600II. It is important to realize that with any camera, Nikon or Canon, if you let the camera decide and choose one of the entire AF array the AF will latch to the BG when photographing challenging BIF against any kind of varied BG, so the "3D tracking" in Nikon is just as useless as "iTR" in Canon and I don't expect any such system to work for the type of photos I like to take. The most productive method for photographing BIF is to use the center AF expansion for either camera so that it is forced to focus where you want it to focus.

Initially the D5 seemed to hold focus better when the bird was changing direction but upon close inspection on my computer, many of those shots were not what I'd call tack sharp compared to my Canon files, they were slightly soft which makes it unacceptable to me. I also found that the Nikon couldn't quite keep up with the bird coming at you at high speed where as the 1DXII would often nail at least a couple of those shots (e.g. below).

The Nilkon system falls apart quickly when you throw in a TC, whereas the Canon system does not care if a TC is attached, many if not most of my photographs are taken with a TC.





Aug 24, 2017 at 02:54 PM





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