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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


Dlee13 wrote:


garyvot wrote:
I just had a look at the sample 6D Mark II CR2s at Imaging Resource. Can someone tell me what we've been arguing about for the past 6 weeks?

Frankly, these images look excellent to me. On a number of levels.

Judging from these, I could happily shoot this camera and have zero qualms from an image quality perspective. But then, I don't make it habit to underexpose by 5 f-stops, and have zero interest in ISO-invariance trickery.

For those that do, however, I think Rusty may be on to something with his take on the ISO 50 image. Push the exposure in LR multiple stops and noise remains relatively well controlled. Perhaps this camera could still be an option for landscapers looking for a budget full frame body in EF mount.

Despite all the doom/gloom hur-dur, at the end of the day I suspect most purchasers will find this camera to be crackerjack.


I'm sorry to inform you but the days of having skill, nailing exposure and actually processing your images are long gone. Now people just like to shoot at whatever settings, then just play with the exposure slider in post and that's it :P

I always laugh when I see people complain about the IQ of any camera when they are pushing an image by 3-6 stops. If they need to push that much, they should complain about their skills not the camera!


And likewise I always laugh when I see posts like this. For 5 years useful examples of significant shadow pushes have been shown across the net, and still people don't get it.

Here it is, one more time: it's not about correcting exposure errors, but being able to push shadows in a wide dynamic range. The 5 stop pushes simply tell you how much shadow recovery you have available.

Are you getting this yet?

And yes, then the answer may be "well, I don't like this HDR effect". Nor do I when it's done badly, but it's very simple to correct for pushing shadows in LR if you know what you're doing. You said you know about post production so I'm sure this doesn't apply to you.

My point has never changed - 99.8% of my photos will never need it, but the remaining 0.02% will benefit. Here's an example of a single shot capture that would benefit. It was shot on my 5d3. It's messy in the shadows. The 5d4 wouldn't suffer from the same problem.



Please try to get off your sanctimonious high horse about the skill of photography being gone .. percentage wise, I see more amazing photography now than I did 20 years ago. People seem more able to concentrate on their subject these days. They might use a different process to get there, but so what? And even if that wasn't the case, what care is it of yours? If people are enjoying it, so what?



Jul 23, 2017 at 05:35 AM





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