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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


kurt765 wrote:
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3416153698/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-dynamic-range

"Canon 6D Mark II dynamic range falls behind modern APS-C cameras"

What a disappointment, though not unexpected sadly.


Looking at the ISO invariance chart ... switch out to the include the 80D, 5D4 and 1DX II rather at "push vs. straight" options @ 6400. If our goal is the best IQ for the amount of available light which we have to work with, I'm gonna take the 6D II @ 6400 over any of the other three at 6400, or any of the other three with a push.

Granted, that's not the same as saying that you're gonna get the same kind of result from taking an ISO 100 shot and raising it 5 or 6 EV. That approach is downright fugly.

Take a look at the 6D II vs. the D750 while pushing ... the noise of the D750 looks cleaner, but it also looks softer (pre-baked NR ??).

Also, switch out the the 6D II and the D750 to both at 0 EV push, and see how things look. Again, that isn't the issue of lifting shadows ... but if you're truly oriented to achieving the goal of IQ, then I think that either going with the higher ISO or letting in more light delivers preferable (or at least equitable) results.

What we don't see here (yet) is how the D750 +3 EV compares to the 6D II at an equitable native ISO. Given what I see in these two (native 6400 & native 0 EV), I'm thinking that the equitable native 6D II is going to provide superior IQ over the D750 + 3EV.

My take away ... if you eat, live, breathe and die by the ability to extremely lift your shadows ... this is probably NOT the tool for you. However, if you are looking for a camera that takes clean images at different ISO settings, then that's a different matter.

So, while there is much disappointment in the "I can't ratchet my shadows to heavens and back" via ISO-invariance pushing camps ... I'm diggin' what I'm seeing so far.



Jul 20, 2017 at 07:01 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


kurt765 wrote:
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3416153698/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-dynamic-range

"Canon 6D Mark II dynamic range falls behind modern APS-C cameras"

What a disappointment, though not unexpected sadly.


Looking at the ISO invariance chart ... switch out to the include the 80D, 5D4 and 1DX II rather at "push vs. straight" options @ 6400. If our goal is the best IQ for the amount of available light which we have to work with, I'm gonna take the 6D II @ 6400 over any of the other three at 6400, or any of the other three with a push.

Granted, that's not the same as saying that you're gonna get the same kind of result from taking an ISO 100 shot and raising it 5 or 6 EV. That approach is downright fugly.

Take a look at the 6D II vs. the D750 while pushing ... the noise of the D750 looks cleaner, but it also looks softer (pre-baked NR ??).

Also, switch out the the 6D II and the D750 to both at 0 EV push, and see how things look. Again, that isn't the issue of lifting shadows ... but if you're truly oriented to achieving the goal of IQ, then I think that either going with the higher ISO or letting in more light delivers preferable (or at least equitable) results.

What we don't see here (yet) is how the D750 +3 EV compares to the 6D II at an equitable native ISO. Given what I see in these two (native 6400 & native 0 EV), I'm thinking that the equitable native 6D II is going to provide superior IQ over the D750 + 3EV.

My take away ... if you eat, live, breathe and die by the ability to extremely lift your shadows ... this is probably NOT the tool for you. However, if you are looking for a camera that takes clean images at different ISO settings, then that's a different matter.

So, while there is much disappointment in the "I can't ratchet my shadows to heavens and back" via ISO-invariance pushing camps ... I'm diggin' what I'm seeing so far.



Jul 20, 2017 at 06:56 AM





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