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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do (note your glass selection below). My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass lineup (as apparently you do as well). Your condescending and rude assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

A) My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still technically more MP than the A7s, albeit 2MP is pragmatically insignificant).

B) Sony ... too simple ... MILC ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality in using Canon EF mount bodies with Canon EF mount glass is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in some non-Canon Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouse mentality and / or other inappropriate references for choosing to do otherwise ...



BTW, I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II


NOTE: Fred Miranda himself uses Canon glass on Sony bodies ... BUT, I don't see Fred in the Canon Forum trying to tell his respected fellow FM'ers how "F"'d up, dull minded, battered spouse, sheep mentality they are for continuing to use Canon bodies. Take a clue from Fred ... go shoot the Sony if you like it, just quit trying to tell others how wrong they are for not doing the same.

I know you feel like you are doing such a good thing by challenging us to get out of our comfort zone ... but, A) you are only the last in a long line of people who have thought it was their obligation to do the same. B) your manner of decorum in doing so is inappropriate conduct for FM. C) You really have no idea the depth, breadth and detail of which the members of this forum have been exposed to, considered and evaluated their wants & needs regarding Canon and others. Your assertions of the members of this forum as sheep and battered spouses, etc. is inappropriate for FM. If this needs further clarification ... please consult Fred Miranda himself.





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:58 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do (note your glass selection below). My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass lineup (as apparently you do as well). Your condescending and rude assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

A) My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still technically more MP than the A7s, albeit 2MP is pragmatically insignificant).

B) Sony ... too simple ... MILC ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality in using Canon EF mount bodies with Canon EF mount glass is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouse mentality and / or other inappropriate references for choosing to do otherwise ...



BTW, I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II


NOTE: Fred Miranda himself uses Canon glass on Sony bodies ... BUT, I don't see Fred in the Canon Forum trying to tell his respected fellow FM'ers how "F"'d up, dull minded, battered spouse, sheep mentality they are for continuing to use Canon bodies. Take a clue from Fred ... go shoot the Sony if you like it, just quit trying to tell others how wrong they are for not doing the same.

I know you feel like you are doing such a good thing by challenging us to get out of our comfort zone ... but, A) you are only the last in a long line of people who have thought it was their obligation to do the same. B) your manner of decorum in doing so is inappropriate conduct for FM. C) You really have no idea the depth, breadth and detail of which the members of this forum have been exposed to, considered and evaluated their wants & needs regarding Canon and others. Your assertions of the members of this forum as sheep and battered spouses, etc. is inappropriate for FM. If this needs further clarification ... please consult Fred Miranda himself.





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:53 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do (note your glass selection below). My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass lineup (as apparently you do as well). Your condescending and rude assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

A) My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still technically more MP than the A7s, albeit 2MP is pragmatically insignificant).

B) Sony ... too simple ... MILC ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality in using Canon EF mount bodies with Canon EF mount glass is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouse mentality and / or other inappropriate references for choosing to do otherwise ...



BTW, I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II


NOTE: Fred Miranda himself uses Canon glass on Sony bodies ... BUT, I don't see Fred in the Canon Forum trying to tell his respected fellow FM'ers how "F"'d up, dull minded, battered spouse, sheep mentality they are for continuing to use Canon bodies. Take a clue from Fred ... go shoot the Sony if you like it, just quit trying to tell others how wrong they are for not doing the same.

I know you feel like you are doing such a good thing by challenging us to get out of our comfort zone ... but, A) you are only the last in a long line of people who have thought it was their obligation to do the same. B) your manner of decorum in doing so is inappropriate conduct for FM. C) You really have no idea the depth, breadth and detail of which the members of this forum have been exposed to, considered and evaluated their wants & needs regarding Canon and others. Your assertions of the members of this forum as sheep and battered spouses, etc. is inappropriate for FM. If this needs further clarification ... please consult Fred Miranda himself.





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:51 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do (note your glass selection below). My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass lineup (as apparently you do as well). Your condescending and rude assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

A) My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still technically more MP than the A7s, albeit 2MP is pragmatically insignificant).

B) Sony ... too simple ... MILC ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality in using Canon EF mount bodies with Canon EF mount glass is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouse mentality and / or other inappropriate references for choosing to do otherwise ...



BTW, I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II


NOTE: Fred Miranda himself uses Canon glass on Sony bodies ... BUT, I don't see Fred in the Canon Forum trying to tell his respected fellow FM'ers how "F"'d up, dull minded, battered spouse, sheep mentality they are for continuing to use Canon bodies. Take a clue from Fred ... go shoot the Sony if you like it, just quit trying to tell others how wrong they are for not doing the same.





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:45 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do (note your glass selection below). My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass lineup (as apparently you do as well). Your condescending and rude assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

A) My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still technically more MP than the A7s, albeit 2MP is pragmatically insignificant).

B) Sony ... too simple ... MILC ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality in using Canon EF mount bodies with Canon EF mount glass is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouse mentality and / or other inappropriate references for choosing to do otherwise ...



BTW, I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II


NOTE: Fred Miranda himself uses Canon glass on Sony bodies ... BUT, I don't see Fred in the Canon Forum trying to tell his fellow FM'ers how "F"'d up they are for continuing to use Canon bodies. Take a clue from Fred ... go shoot the Sony if you like it, just quit trying to tell others how wrong they are for not doing the same.





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:43 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do (note your glass selection below). My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass lineup (as apparently you do as well). Your condescending and rude assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

A) My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still technically more MP than the A7s, albeit 2MP is pragmatically insignificant).

B) Sony ... too simple ... MILC ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality in using Canon EF mount bodies with Canon EF mount glass is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouse mentality and / or other inappropriate references for choosing to do otherwise ...



BTW, I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II


NOTE: Fred Miranda himself uses Canon glass on Sony bodies ... BUT, I don't see Fred in the Canon Forum trying to tell his fellow FM'ers how "F"'d up they are for continuing to use Canon bodies. Take a clue from Fred ... go shoot the Sony if you like it, just quit trying to tell others how wrong they are for not doing the same.



Jul 04, 2017 at 08:43 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do (note your glass selection below). My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass lineup (as apparently you do as well). Your condescending and rude assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

A) My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still technically more MP than the A7s, albeit 2MP is pragmatically insignificant).

B) Sony ... too simple ... MILC ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality in using Canon EF mount bodies with Canon EF mount glass is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouse mentality and / or other inappropriate references for choosing to do otherwise ...

BTW, I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:39 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do (note your glass selection below). My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass lineup (as apparently you do as well). Your condescending and rude assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

A) My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still technically more MP than the A7s, albeit 2MP is pragmatically insignificant).

B) Sony ... too simple ... MILC ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouse mentality and / or other inappropriate references for choosing to do otherwise ...

BTW, I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:37 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do (note your glass selection below). My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass. Your condescending and rude assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

A) My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still technically more MP than the A7s, albeit 2MP is pragmatically insignificant).

B) Sony ... too simple ... MILC ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouse mentality and / or other inappropriate references for choosing to do otherwise ...

BTW, I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:35 AM
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scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do (note your glass selection below). My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass. Your assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

A) My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still technically more MP than the A7s, albeit 2MP is pragmatically insignificant).

B) Sony ... too simple ... MILC ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouse mentality and / or other inappropriate references for choosing to do otherwise ...

BTW, I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:35 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do (note your glass selection below). My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass. Your assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still technically more MP than the A7s, albeit 2MP is pragmatically insignificant).

Sony ... too simple ... MILC ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouse mentality and / or other inappropriate references for choosing to do otherwise ...

BTW, I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:34 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do (note your glass selection below). My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass. Your assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still more MP than the A7s).

Sony ... too simple ... MILC ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouse mentality and / or other inappropriate references for choosing to do otherwise ...

BTW, I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:32 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do (note your glass selection below). My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass. Your assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still more MP than the A7s).

Sony ... too simple ... MILC ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouse mentality and / or other inappropriate references for choosing to do otherwise ...

BTW, I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:32 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do (note your glass selection below). My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass. Your assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still more MP than the A7s).

Sony ... too simple ... ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouse mentality and / or other inappropriate references for choosing to do otherwise ...

BTW, I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:30 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do. My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass. Your assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still more MP than the A7s).

Sony ... too simple ... ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouse mentality and / or other inappropriate references for choosing to do otherwise ...

BTW, I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:29 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do. My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass. Your assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still more MP than the A7s).

Sony ... too simple ... ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass. The fact that you like using Sony with your Canon glass ... super, duper, cooper. Just quit trying to tell others they are somehow wrong, inferior, irrational, dull minded, battered spouses for choosing to do otherwise ...

I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:28 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do. My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass. Your assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still more MP than the A7s).

Sony ... too simple ... ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your other Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass.

I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:24 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do. My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass. Your assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still more MP than the A7s).

Sony ... too simple ... ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass.

I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II





Jul 04, 2017 at 08:22 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do. My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass. Your assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still more MP than the A7s).

Sony ... too simple ... ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass.

I believe this is what is currently in your stable from Canon (per your profile):

Canon 7D2
Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS
Canon 24-70 f/2.8L II
Canon 24-105mm f/4L
Canon 40mm f/2.8 pancake
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II
Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L II
Canon 500mm f/4L IS II




Jul 04, 2017 at 08:21 AM
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Re: Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scrappydog wrote:
15Bit wrote:
Please don't feel you are obliged to continue posting here to us Canon sheep. We won't take it personally if you leave.

The battered spouse simile is entirely inappropriate i think. Hopefully it is not representative of your usual expression of opinions.


I never feel obliged to post anywhere. I know it is more comforting when you are only among like-minded sheep, but that's not the world we live in. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Re: the battered spouse analogy, I would characterize Apple devotees to be of the same ilk. The 'I want more but they keep giving me less, and for more money' quandary. And yes, when the analogy is appropriate, as it is here, it represents my thoughts. The question is: why is is inappropriate in your mind? Has your thrill about another rehash of rebadged old tech clouded your rationality? Is it the sinking feeling that you are all-in emotionally with a brand that won't provide you what you want or need? What drives *your* bias? Please don't say that it's a superior system. If you've read my posts, you know that I have shot Canon extensively, so you aren't going to fool me on its capabilities.



First ... I have no bias toward Canon anymore than you do. My only "bias" is that over years of using different glass (Nikon, Oly, etc.) the Canon product line of glass fits my utility better than other mfr offerings. I actually prefer the Nikon bodies, but prefer canon Glass. Your assertion of my bias is errant.

Thus, that presently puts me in three possible positions for using said glass. A) Kodak B) Sony C) Canon.
Which, btw includes alternative glass in Zeiss, Oly, Nikon, Leica and Mamiya (so much for Canon bias).

My Kodak SLR/C is a one trick pony at base ISO (14MP) and will still make wonderful images (note, that is still more MP than the A7s).

Sony ... too simple ... ergonomics suck terribly for me. End of story every time I pick it up. Game over for me.
(BTW, I've already stated this position).

As such, my rationality is just fine, thank you very much.



Now ... as to your intentional and continued ad hominem references (i.e. sheep, etc.) ... please go join your Canon bashing brethren over in the Sony Forum while continuing to use your cadre of Canon glass.




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