Re: Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 135mm f/2.8 APO ($1,999)
Fred Miranda wrote:
What bothers me is the cat-eye specular highlights shape towards the corners 'ala' Batis 85/1.8.
Yep, that's been my concern for the past week(s) - that the B135 would share the swirly bokeh that I didn't like on the B85 (which i think is related somehow to the the cat-eyes).
I've actually been looking at as many sample images as i can find and trying to figure out under what conditions it gets to a point that it really bothers me. So far, it seems a certain subject distance vs background distance (co-dependent on having a background of small repeating patterns) causes the effect that I really don't like - maybe someone a lot smarter than me (not hard to do) could explain if that makes any sense or I'm just associating the effect with an unrelated cause.
I haven't seen anything that makes me think the B135 is nearly as bad as the B85, but there aren't a lot of samples to review yet.
This series of shots (i like this photographer on Flickr, or maybe it's just that I really like this model) starts out with a nice background given the close subject and increasingly as the subject distance grows, the backgrounds gets more swirly. And this isn't even as extreme as I've seen the B135, it's just a nice series from near to far with the same model in a similar environment for comparison.
The first 2 are quite nice.
The 3rd is OK.
The last 2 are starting to get nervous.
Re: Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 135mm f/2.8 APO ($1,999)
Fred Miranda wrote:
What bothers me is the cat-eye specular highlights shape towards the corners 'ala' Batis 85/1.8.
Yep, that's been my concern for the past week(s) - that the B135 would share the swirly bokeh that I didn't like on the B85. I've actually been looking at as many sample images as i can find and trying to figure out under what conditions it gets to a point that it really bothers me. So far, it seems a certain subject distance vs background distance (co-dependent on having a background of small repeating patterns) causes the effect that I really don't like - maybe someone a lot smarter than me (not hard to do) could explain if that makes any sense or I'm just associating the effect with an unrelated cause.
This series of shots (i like this photographer on Flickr, or maybe it's just that I really like this model) starts out with a nice background given the close subject and increasingly as the subject distance grows, the backgrounds gets more swirly. And this isn't even as extreme as I've seen the B135, it's just a nice series from near to far with the same model in a similar environment for comparison.
The first 2 are quite nice.
The 3rd is OK.
The last 2 are starting to get nervous.
Re: Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 135mm f/2.8 APO ($1,999)
Fred Miranda wrote:
What bothers me is the cat-eye specular highlights shape towards the corners 'ala' Batis 85/1.8.
Yep, that's been my concern for the past week(s) - that the B135 would share the swirly bokeh that I didn't like on the B85. I've actually been looking at as many sample images as i can find and trying to figure out under what conditions it gets to a point that it really bothers me. So far, it seems a certain subject distance vs background distance (co-dependent on having a background of small repeating patterns) causes the effect that I really don't like - maybe someone a lot smarter than me (not hard to do) could explain if that makes any sense or I'm just associating the effect with an unrelated cause.
This series of shots (i like this photographer on Flickr, or maybe it's just that I really like this model) starts out with a nice background given the close subject and increasingly as the subject distance grows, the backgrounds gets more swirly. And this isn't even as extreme as I've seen the B135, it's just a nice series from near to far with the same model in a similar environment for comparison.
Re: Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 135mm f/2.8 APO ($1,999)
Fred Miranda wrote:
It's a very impressive MTF, in part due to aberration control. What bothers me is the cat-eye specular highlights shape towards the corners 'ala' Batis 85/1.8.
Yep, that's been my concern for the past week(s) - that the B135 would share the swirly bokeh that I didn't like on the B85. I've actually been looking at as many sample images as i can find and trying to figure out under what conditions it gets to a point that it really bothers me. So far, it seems a certain subject distance vs background distance (co-dependent on having a background of small repeating patterns) causes the effect that I really don't like - maybe someone a lot smarter than me (not hard to do) could explain if that makes any sense or I'm just associating the effect with an unrelated cause.
This series of shots (i like this photographer on Flickr, i also really like this model) starts out with a nice background given the close subject and increasingly as the subject distance grows, the backgrounds gets more swirly.
Apr 06, 2017 at 12:56 AM
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