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I will say that the E-M1.2 is pretty good up to maybe ISO 3200 - if the files are not under-exposed - and depending on one's tolerance threshold for noise. And you are right - the Sony 42MP A7RII is not noise-free, but comparing ISO-to-ISO the Sony is less noisy than the E-M1.2 especially at higher ISOs. The combination of sensor size, megapixel count, better dynamic range and better high-ISO performance makes the A7RII a better camera overall. Personally I prefer to shoot with the E-M1.2 but it's mostly because I am more familiar with that camera and therefore more comfortable with the controls of the E-M1.2.

savingspaces wrote:
bobbytan wrote:
savingspaces wrote:
bobbytan wrote:
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savingspaces wrote:
Thank you very much Bobby! It is good to know that the Hi Res mode is not just a gimmick. Did you try the ISO 64 on the EM1?

Thanks again.



Supposedly there is "no" noise according to some users.


Not true. Here's a 200% crop of the image at ISO 200.



Mr Bobby, can you do just one more at ISO 64 (hi res) for us? Please? (same scene?)


I did the test last night but I wasn't too pleased with the results somehow, so I will have to do another one this weekend. There is some difference in the noise level between ISO 64 and ISO 200 ... but that is not too surprising, as there is almost a 2 stop difference in ISO rating. I think you do lose some IQ. And it would be very difficult to tell if it's better to shoot at ISO 64 ... or ISO 200 with some NR applied. Is it noise-free at ISO 64? No, I don't think it's noise-free but it's a little cleaner than ISO 200.


Thanks Bobby for taking the extra shot - so what do you think? I mean on my 5k iMac, I see a lot of noise in the A7rII shot as well. Thanks.

PS: Neither camera is free of noise right? And if you think about it, Olympus is doing some great things that these 2 cameras are even compared on ANY level.




Mar 24, 2017 at 07:05 PM
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Olympus E-M1 Mk II


I will say that the E-M1.2 is pretty good up to maybe ISO 3200 - if the files are not under-exposed - and depending on one's tolerance threshold for noise. And you are right - the Sony 42MP A7RII is not noise-free, but comparing ISO-to-ISO the Sony is less noisy than the E-M1.2 especially at higher ISOs. The combination of sensor size, megapixel count, better dynamic range and better high-ISO performance makes the A7RII a better camera overall.

savingspaces wrote:
bobbytan wrote:
savingspaces wrote:
bobbytan wrote:
savingspaces wrote:
bobbytan wrote:
No.

savingspaces wrote:
Thank you very much Bobby! It is good to know that the Hi Res mode is not just a gimmick. Did you try the ISO 64 on the EM1?

Thanks again.



Supposedly there is "no" noise according to some users.


Not true. Here's a 200% crop of the image at ISO 200.



Mr Bobby, can you do just one more at ISO 64 (hi res) for us? Please? (same scene?)


I did the test last night but I wasn't too pleased with the results somehow, so I will have to do another one this weekend. There is some difference in the noise level between ISO 64 and ISO 200 ... but that is not too surprising, as there is almost a 2 stop difference in ISO rating. I think you do lose some IQ. And it would be very difficult to tell if it's better to shoot at ISO 64 ... or ISO 200 with some NR applied. Is it noise-free at ISO 64? No, I don't think it's noise-free but it's a little cleaner than ISO 200.


Thanks Bobby for taking the extra shot - so what do you think? I mean on my 5k iMac, I see a lot of noise in the A7rII shot as well. Thanks.

PS: Neither camera is free of noise right? And if you think about it, Olympus is doing some great things that these 2 cameras are even compared on ANY level.




Mar 24, 2017 at 07:00 PM





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