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Gary Clennan wrote:
uhoh7 wrote:
I'm not sure why you feel the need for an opinion on the subject.
 Funniest thing I read all day - thanks for that Charlie! I certainly do have an opinion and will share it whenever I like. If your opinion doesn't align - that's perfectly fine, just disregard whatever I say (or hide me). You have always been good at playing sides and throwing around names (like above) to (attempt to) support your cause. I personally enjoy seeing a spirited yet balanced discussion of the pros & cons of anything. It's what I like about the FM community.  I also know that you love engaging in (unconstructive) internet arguments (as seen countless times over the years) and I would personally rather not participate. 
You are participating, though you may chicken out at any time
I sent Sam's album with the ZM 21/4.5 images to Dante Stella
Who knows the Lens well on the M240
Hi Dante,
Could you take a quick look at some ZM 21/4.5 test shots?
https://flic.kr/s/aHskRM683E
That's on a very new type of super thin filter mod for A7rii. I'm just wondering how they look compared to your experience on the 240.
TY so much,
Charlie
He just responded:
Hey Charlie -
Overall, they look much better than the 240, which I guess should be expected when you don't have the microlenses causing color shift (my 4.5 mostly gets used on a Monochrom).
The A7RII does not look as ultra-contrasty though - but that may just be the processing used.
Dante
Now what he is talking about regarding microlenses I have no idea, but, much more importantly, he is saying is the A7rii is beating the M240 with one of the most difficult lenses you can put on top of a digital sensor. Super-steep ray angles. Everyone has given up using it in color on any digital M.
That is hardly definitive. We would need a real side by side to say for sure Sam's special r2 beats M240 with ZM 21/4.5. But the very fact Dante thinks this is the case shows my "optimism" may not be entirely misguided.  I'm not suggesting the ZM 21/4.5 will make a digital comeback. I have no idea about that, but IF Sam's camera can deal with this lens better than 240 it would show there is no problem with the sensor architecture under the glass toppings. But I suppose this means nothing up against: Confirmation Bias aka Gary FC 
It's priceless to hear your stout defense of Sony, Gary, after that rocky start
PS I give Gary a hard time, but he is wonderful photographer, and I very much admire his shooting Our little conflict here aside, I have no hard feelings toward him, just the opposite. I've argued hard with people I like my whole life, and it's taught me to recognize when I'm wrong when it's obvious, and not to be shy in apology.
PSS Sam do you have access to a CV 21/4? that would be so interesting too You are so nice take the time to test the ZM 21/4.5 and share the results with us. Thank you, sincerely.
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