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 Re: Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless | |
naturephoto1 wrote:
Tariq Gibran wrote:
freaklikeme wrote:
Tariq Gibran wrote:
naturephoto1 wrote:
Tariq Gibran wrote:
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Fred Miranda wrote:
naturephoto1 wrote:
I suspected that Hassleblad would keep or try to keep this a closed system. I wonder if they intend to have an adapter for their own C/CM lenses for the camera or if an indepependent maker will make a C/CM adapter for the camera.
My interest in this camera has dropped to next to nothing as I am not looking to spend this kind of money on a closed system and can not use any of the lenses that I already own.
I will wait for Sony or another maker to offer an alternative and/or for the Sony A7rIII and A9.
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Fred Miranda wrote:
freaklikeme wrote:
Fred Miranda wrote:
BTW: Guy just sent me this info via email. I believe it\'s from getdpi. It contains Hasselblad\'s answer to many questions we may also have..
Dear Hasselblad,
I\'m really excited by your new camera and wish you the very best with its launch. The feature set looks great and it seems so far to be the perfect replacement to my much loved Mamiya 7.
I would like to ask you though if you may clarify a few details about the X1D for us:
1: Will the HTS 1.5 work with the X1D and H lens adaptor, and will adjustments be transmitted to metadata for automatic corrections in Phocus?
2: Is there plans to impliment an electronic shutter feature so that people may take the liberty of using the X1D on such platforms as the Cambo Actus, or indeed adapting third party lenses without leaf shutters?
3: Is the refresh rate of the live view feed in the EVF 30fps, and is this specification limited by the capacity of the sensor itself in that it can\'t output any quicker and retain the same level of detail?
4: Can you please confirm here that the autofocus point can be moved across all areas of the sensor area?
5: Lastly, does the X1D have a focus peaking function to aid in manual focusing and checking the precise focus point?
Thanks and again, well done with the new camera!
TJV
Hi TJV,
Great to hear. Here are some of the answers I can give at this very moment. All of our Swedish engineers are already gone celebrating the Swedish Midsummer - the biggest Swedish holiday during the year here in Sweden
1: Will the HTS 1.5 work with the X1D and H lens adaptor, and will adjustments be transmitted to metadata for automatic corrections in Phocus? - Yes, it is in the plan. If it works fine without compromising optical and image quality, the feature will be introduced.
2: Is there plans to impliment an electronic shutter feature so that people may take the liberty of using the X1D on such platforms as the Cambo Actus, or indeed adapting third party lenses without leaf shutters? - No, X1D will work only with the new XCD lenses or with all the existing HC/HCD lenses using the adapter. This is mainly to secure the the highest possible image quality which is key for Hasselblad.
3: Is the refresh rate of the live view feed in the EVF 30fps, and is this specification limited by the capacity of the sensor itself in that it can\'t output any quicker and retain the same level of detail? - X1D EVF performance is outstanding, no need for any quicker rates in here. There are EVFs out there with higher fps but the actual performance does not live up to Hasselblad quality standards. We suggest to book a demo and check out EVF\'s performance on your own at www.hasselblad.com/x1d
4: Can you please confirm here that the autofocus point can be moved across all areas of the sensor area? - It will, yes. At this stage it is central single focus point, but we are about to launch selectable single focus point feature.
5: Lastly, does the X1D have a focus peaking function to aid in manual focusing and checking the precise focus point? - Autofocus metering via contrast detection with instant manual focus override.
I hope this helps!
// The Hasselblad team
They\'re \"launching\" features post-announcement but pre-release? Sounds like someone decided to show off the herring before it was fully smoked.
To me, it looks like the firmware is still a work in progress and new features could be included before the first deliveries.
From the post he has made and I have another unanswered question it very much is a firmware in progress. Has the same menu items as the H6 I believe it\'s called but nothing set in stone as you can tell they are working on everything. Pretty normal stuff
The good news in all that was his first post was about thanking people and they are reading the forums and taking notes. This is great as they can still tweak certain features and maybe add some. Glad they are listening and I\'m trying to get a unit to test as is Fred. I believe as we get closer to Photokinia more news will be coming from there camp. The pre-orders are well beyond what they thought. So that\'s a lot of motivation for them
As far as a closed system. Hassy has always been a closed system.Thats what they believe in. If that bothers you than not sure what to say. Some systems are some are not buyers choice.
Hi Guy,
If you recall, Sony was totally taken aback by the initial success of the S7 and the S7r. They listened to the responses by those interested, but they kept their system open. It still is and Sony, Zeiss, and CV have as well as now 3rd party makers are now or will be offering lenses for the system.
Rich
To be fair Rich, Sony didn\'t have a choice here. They only designed adapters for their own A-mount and Hasselblad is doing the same thing. The limitation for third party lenses is the leaf shutter which is actually an essential feature for professionals.
Adding an electronic shutter will definitely lower IQ and limit the camera\'s functionality. I already happens with the smaller sensor A7RII \'silent shutter\'.
Hi Fred,
The usage of the leaf shutter for professional usage is for having a wide selection of flash syncs. So, this is mainly for usage either for studio usage and reportage such as for weddings. It is not nearly as important a usage for landscape work unless the photographer also intends to suppelement the scene with flash. In all of the many years that I shot Large Format landscapes, I never relied on flash and all of my large format lenses have leaf shutters.
By the way, even Leica is an open system with the M and now the L (SL) mounts where other makers and camera mounts will fit their cameras. Of course the Leica cameras are Focal Plane shutter systems.
Rich
Traditionally, leaf shutter lenses are used by those who need high sync speeds for outdoor use with flash/ strobe (some fashion, catalog, wedding) and maybe some sports stuff. It\'s certainly not essential for all professionals and many professionals even in these niches shoot without using leaf shutter lenses. Today\'s leaf shutters are mighty impressive though given the top speeds compared to the 1/500sec. we were once limited to (not compared to focal plane shutters but still). The biggest issue with Hasselblad and leaf shutter lenses was once being limited to this top speed of 1/500sec. It is interesting to note though that the very first Hasselblads (as the basic modular system was conceived by Victor Hasselblad) was designed around the focal plane shutter (1600F, 1000F). Later of course, Hasselblad would offer focal plane options as well (2000FC, 205, 203, 201, etc.).
The open/ closed system issue has specific significance for Hasselblad in particular given the outcry there was when they artificially prevented other digital backs from working with the H3D. The late Michael Reichmann had a lot to say about it back then. Maybe they think about a decade is enough time for folks to have forgotten about it...
http://luminous-landscape.com/hasselblad-h3d-concerns/
Hi Fred and Tariq,
If we remember back to the film days, Hasselblad had both thec C/CM and the F system of cameras. The F system with the Focal Plane shutter allowed the usage of both the F lenses (which lacked the leaf shutters) as well as the C/CM lenses which had the leaf shutters. So, with the new camera. they are also leaving out the possiblility of using the F lenses as did the C and CM cameras though in the case of the new camera it may be possible to have an adapter that will come by some maker that will allow the C/CM lenses to be used on this camera.
Rich
Yes, I briefly owned the 2000FC/W back then as well as the amazing Zeiss 110/F2. Those cameras were not terribly known for reliability unfortunately.
I suspect/ doubt we will see compatibility with the mechanical shutter C/CM lenses...but I would love Hasselblad to prove me wrong.
They do make an CF-to-H adapter now that even has a mechanism to cock and release the shutter, so it could be relatively simple for them to allow it. I\'m not convinced there will be a massive outcry among users if they don\'t allow it, though. I guessing most of that user group who would be serious about finding a digital platform for those lenses is probably content with their CFV-50c\'s on their 500-series bodies.
That\'s cool. I wasn\'t aware of that $1600! adapter. I suspect at that price, Hasselblad might even offer one for the X1D as it\'s not so far off the cost of a lens.
Btw, did anyone notice an actual/ traditional PC Sync socket on this body? I didn\'t notice where it has one.
Hi Tariq,
I am not sure if the camera has a PC Sync socket. Looking at the specs on B&H Photo, they list the external flash connection as hot shoe. There is no PC Sync socket mentioned.
Rich
If the hot shoe is Nikon compatible, you can get X sync from there. Nikon even sells a PC sync terminal adapter, AS-15, if memory serves, that you put in the hot shoe.
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