sebboh wrote: adamdewilde wrote:
If you compare the 50APO to the Otus using a A7 series camera (modded or not). The Otus will perform slightly better. If you use the 50APO on an M240 and the Otus on DSLR. The 50APO beats across the frame by a large enough margin to be noticeable (wide open or stopped down to f/2).
The bokeh on the Otus is spectacular in most situations. But you sacrifice color and contrast (easily fixed in LR). Whereas with the 50APO although you get good (non-distracting bokeh) it\'s only an f/2 lens and it\'s bokeh isn\'t going to be as soft. However, the falloff of both lenses is quite pleasing, with the edge going to the APO especially close up. The 50APO makes up for the lack of very soft bokeh with amazing colors and contrast in the in focus areas. While maintaining a far less contrasty/vivid OOF area. Something I\'ve come to appreciate from it, and no other lens.
I\'ve been toying with the idea of picking up the Otus lenses again. But everyone I\'ve talked to seems to have had to get theirs fixed at one point or another. And the prices are always North of $1500 in most cases $2000 (not just forum members). The other thing that\'s keeping me from doing so to a greater degree is the promise of a 50 Summilux-SL. I\'m going to rush my dealer as soon as the lens comes out. Run tests, and if I don\'t like it. Sell the SL system entirely and then I\'ll grab myself two Otus lenses (55/85) for whatever system I decide to keep (right now I\'m sitting on Canon and Nikon gear, waiting on Leica to make a move).
I am in the meantime enjoying lurking on this topic. I just wish you guys would go out and take more photos. It seems to move a bit to slow!!
the comparison i\'m thinking of was otus on a nikon d810 vs cron AA on the m240, so kinda apples to oranges but the otus definitely won for loCA (only thing of interest in the test to me), sharpness (the resolution difference makes this silly), and smoothness of bokeh. i don\'t think you can really compare color across cameras like that. i\'d love to see them both compared on the m240 head to head, but it wouldn\'t tempt me to buy either of them.
You should give me a bit more credit.
Sharpness tests should obviously be conducted on native cameras. It\'s fair to do such things as each lens was designed for specific sensor parameters. And as a side note. When someone talks about Otus vs X lens.. The first thing all the Otus fans do is brag about the sharpness. So I felt it was worth noting. Though I couldn\'t care less.
Color and contrast should obviously be observed on the same sensor. Especially colors. I would like to add, I didn\'t actually mean the overall contrast of the lens. I meant the relationship between the points of high contrast and low contrast. That\'s what makes the 50APO so special. And it can be seen on a variety of sensors. Not to mention the colors are more vibrant against the Otus when both lenses are on cameras w/same sensors.
