Holger wrote:
The 85GM is a very nice lens, but I am very happy with the Batis. It is excellent too and I like the stronger contrast. The difference in rendering is less important for me mostly, as we usually choose our backgrounds wisely when doing portraits, so the difference will be much less pronounced.I don\'t, on purpose, choose busy backgrounds whenever possible.
I would agree 100% that the differences between the lenses can be managed. Being that my profession is trading commodities, photography is a hobby that is generally linked to traveling with family and friends. As such, probably 2/3 of the time I\'m trying to capture a moment (and have very little control over anything) but don\'t want it look too much like a snapshot. Part of that is choosing target rich environments and the right time of day (light) and part of that is having good equipment.
So even though I\'m sharing all of these tests, they\'re squarely focused on situations I tend to find myself in. I over analyze things before purchases or trips but when I\'m traveling or out with friends, I don\'t sweat the details, in fact, I purposely try to not let the photography \"get in the way\" of having a good time with the people I\'m with.
I actually love a lot of what the Batis does. So for my needs, this becomes a difficult decision, because the GM takes slightly sharper images and handles distracting backgrounds a bit better and I\'m trying to determine for my purposes how often that will be a factor. but the GM \"gets in the way\" all of the time, because of its mass. I don\'t even notice I\'m carrying the Batis, whereas I feel the GM constantly.
here\'s a shot i took last summer of my son on the ferry as we arrived into Bellagio - with the Zony 35/1.4 - which i\'m glad i had and had gotten rid of the Zony 35/2.8 which practically ruined half the photos from a trip to SanDiego 2 years earlier because of its nervous bokeh. I had zero control over this situation, but i love the moment and part of that was having a good lens that i was confident in and didn\'t have to sweat about the background being too busy etc - i also wasn\'t thinking about my equipment at all and rather enjoyed our time together on that trip.
Holger wrote:
The 85GM is a very nice lens, but I am very happy with the Batis. It is excellent too and I like the stronger contrast. The difference in rendering is less important for me mostly, as we usually choose our backgrounds wisely when doing portraits, so the difference will be much less pronounced.I don\'t, on purpose, choose busy backgrounds whenever possible.
I would agree 100% that the differences between the lenses can be managed. Being that my profession is trading commodities, photography is a hobby that is generally linked to traveling with family and friends. As such, probably 2/3 of the time I\'m trying to capture a moment (and have very little control over anything) but don\'t want it look too much like a snapshot. Part of that is choosing target rich environments and the right time of day (light) and part of that is having good equipment.
So even though I\'m sharing all of these tests, they\'re squarely focused on situations I tend to find myself in. I over analyze things before purchases or trips but when I\'m traveling or out with friends, I don\'t sweat the details, in fact, I purposely try to not let the photography \"get in the way\" of having a good time with the people I\'m with.
I actually love a lot of what the Batis does. So for my needs, this becomes a difficult decision, because the GM clearly takes sharper images and handles distracting backgrounds better and I\'m trying to determine for my purposes how often that will be a factor. but the GM \"gets in the way\" all of the time, because of its mass. I don\'t even notice I\'m carrying the Batis, whereas I feel the GM constantly.
here\'s a shot i took last summer of my son on the ferry as we arrived into Bellagio - with the Zony 35/1.4 - which i\'m glad i had and had gotten rid of the Zony 35/2.8 which practically ruined half the photos from a trip to SanDiego 2 years earlier because of its nervous bokeh. I had zero control over this situation, but i love the moment and part of that was having a good lens that i was confident in and didn\'t have to sweat about the background being too busy etc - i also wasn\'t thinking about my equipment at all and rather enjoyed our time together on that trip.
Holger wrote:
The 85GM is a very nice lens, but I am very happy with the Batis. It is excellent too and I like the stronger contrast. The difference in rendering is less important for me mostly, as we usually choose our backgrounds wisely when doing portraits, so the difference will be much less pronounced.I don\'t, on purpose, choose busy backgrounds whenever possible.
I would agree 100% that the differences between the lenses can be managed. Being that my profession is trading commodities, photography is a hobby that is generally linked to traveling with family and friends. As such, probably 2/3 of the time I\'m trying to capture a moment (and have very little control over anything) but don\'t want it look too much like a snapshot. Part of that is choosing target rich environments and the right time of day (light) and part of that is having good equipment.
So even though I\'m sharing all of these tests, they\'re squarely focused on situations I tend to find myself in. I over analyze things before purchases or trips but when I\'m traveling or out with friends, I don\'t sweat the details, in fact, I purposely try to not let the photography \"get in the way\" of having a good time with the people I\'m with.
I actually love a lot of what the Batis does. So for my needs, this becomes a difficult decision, because the GM clearly takes sharper images and handles distracting backgrounds better and I\'m trying to determine for my purposes how often that will be a factor. but the GM \"gets in the way\" all of the time, because of its mass. I don\'t even notice I\'m carrying the Batis, whereas I feel the GM constantly.
here\'s a shot i took last summer of my son on the ferry as we arrived into Bellagio - with the Zony 35/1.4 - which i\'m glad i had and had gotten rid of the Zony 35/2.8 which practically ruined half the photos from a trip to SanDiego 2 years earlier because of its nervous bokeh. I had zero control over this situation, but i love the moment and part of that was having a good lens that i was confident in and didn\'t have to sweat about the background being too busy etc - i also wasn\'t thinking about my equipment at all and rather enjoyed our time together on that trip:
Holger wrote:
The 85GM is a very nice lens, but I am very happy with the Batis. It is excellent too and I like the stronger contrast. The difference in rendering is less important for me mostly, as we usually choose our backgrounds wisely when doing portraits, so the difference will be much less pronounced.I don\'t, on purpose, choose busy backgrounds whenever possible.
I would agree 100% that the differences between the lenses can be managed. Being that my profession is trading commodities, photography is a hobby that is generally linked to traveling with family and friends. As such, probably 2/3 of the time I\'m trying to capture a moment (and have very little control over anything) but not have it look too much like a snapshot. Part of that is choosing target rich environments and the right time of day (light) and part of that is having good equipment.
So even though I\'m sharing all of these tests, they\'re squarely focused on situations I tend to find myself in. I over analyze things before purchases or trips but when I\'m traveling or out with friends, I don\'t sweat the details, in fact, I purposely try to not let the photography \"get in the way\" of having a good time with the people I\'m with.
I actually love a lot of what the Batis does. So for my needs, this becomes a difficult decision, because the GM clearly takes sharper images and handles distracting backgrounds better and I\'m trying to determine for my purposes how often that will be a factor. but the GM \"gets in the way\" all of the time, because of its mass. I don\'t even notice I\'m carrying the Batis, whereas I feel the GM constantly.
here\'s a shot i took last summer of my son on the ferry as we arrived into Bellagio - with the Zony 35/1.4 - which i\'m glad i had and had gotten rid of the Zony 35/2.8 which practically ruined half the photos from a trip to SanDiego 2 years earlier because of its nervous bokeh. I had zero control over this situation, but i love the moment and part of that was having a good lens that i was confident in and didn\'t have to sweat about the background being too busy etc - i also wasn\'t thinking about my equipment at all and rather enjoyed our time together on that trip:
Holger wrote:
The 85GM is a very nice lens, but I am very happy with the Batis. It is excellent too and I like the stronger contrast. The difference in rendering is less important for me mostly, as we usually choose our backgrounds wisely when doing portraits, so the difference will be much less pronounced.I don\'t, on purpose, choose busy backgrounds whenever possible.
I would agree 100% that the differences between the lenses can be managed. Being that my profession is trading commodities, photography is a hobby that is generally linked to traveling with family and friends. As such, probably 2/3 of the time I\'m trying to capture a moment (and have very little control over anything) but not have it look too much like a snapshot. Part of that is choosing target rich environments and the right time of day (light) and part of that is having good equipment.
So even though I\'m sharing all of these tests, they\'re squarely focused on situations I tend to find myself in. I over analyze things before purchases or trips but when I\'m traveling or out with friends, I don\'t sweat the details, in fact, I purposely try to not let the photography \"get in the way\" of having a good time with the people I\'m with.
I actually love a lot of what the Batis does. So for my needs, this becomes a difficult decision, because the GM clearly takes sharper images and handles distracting backgrounds better and I\'m trying to determine for my purposes how often that will be a factor. but the GM \"gets in the way\" all of the time, because of its mass. I don\'t even notice I\'m carrying the Batis, whereas I feel the GM constantly.
here\'s a shot i took last summer of my son on the ferry as we arrived into Bellagio - with the Zony 35/1.4 - which i\'m glad i had and had gotten rid of the Zony 35/2.8 which practically ruined half the photos from a trip to SanDiego 2 years earlier because of its nervous bokeh. I had zero control over this situation, but i love the moment and part of that was having a good lens that i was confident in and didn\'t have to sweat about the background being too busy etc - i also wasn\'t thinking about my equipment at all and rather enjoyed our time together on that trip: https://drscdn.500px.org/photo/119543117/m%3D2048/d0bd7af64ec72a9d7132862752a2074f
Holger wrote: ecarlino wrote: JVJL wrote:
Thanks for posting these comparisons. It may be a due to copy variations but it seems the GM is sharper than the Batis in the lower left corner
At twice the weight and 150% of the price compared to the Batis, the GM had better be sharper overall and in the corners.
There\'s no doubt it\'s better optically; It is also \'different\' in certain aspects.
Everyone needs to evaluate for themselves (based on needs, budget, preferences, etc) whether that bit of extra sharpness (and other characteristics) is \'worth\' it to them.
The 85GM is a very nice lens, but I am very happy with the Batis. It is excellent too and I like the stronger contrast. The difference in rendering is less important for me mostly, as we usually choose our backgrounds wisely when doing portraits, so the difference will be much less pronounced.I don\'t, on purpose, choose busy backgrounds whenever possible.
I would agree 100% that the differences between the lenses can be managed. Being that my profession is trading commodities, photograpgy is a hobby that is generally linked to traveling with family and friends. As such, probably 2/3 of the time I\'m trying to capture a moment but not have it look too much like a snapshot. Part of that is choosing target rich environments and the right time of day (light) and part of that is having good equipment.
So even though I\'m sharing all of these tests, they\'re squarely focused on situations I tend to find myself in. I over analyze things before purchases or trips but when I\'m traveling or out with friends, I don\'t sweat the details, in fact, I purposely try to not let the photography \"get in the way\" of having a good time with the people I\'m with.
So for my needs, this becomes a difficult decision, because the GM clearly takes sharper images and handles distracting backgrounds better and I\'m trying to determine for my purposes how often that will be a factor. but the GM \"gets in the way\" all of the time, because of its mass. I don\'t even notice I\'m carrying the Batis, whereas I feel the GM constantly.
Apr 12, 2016 at 06:14 AM
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