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 Re: Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF | |
millsart wrote:
Zony_user wrote:
I just wanted to report back from page 45 that I decided to get the Leica Q. The recent development of the RX1R II getting delayed in Japan was the final nail in the coffin. I was sitting on the fence, but Sony practically made the decision for me.
The 28mm fov will getting used to but I\'m loving the camera and it\'s images so far. It should make for a excellent pairing with my A7ii and FE55. Perhaps that\'s one of the few things that the Q will do better than the RX1R II 
Thanks for all the advice, and have fun with the RX1R II which seems to be an excellent camera as well.
I did the exact same thing, got a deal on a used one so the price difference wasn\'t too bad. Love the ergonomics of the camera and the simple direct control, love the touchscreen for AF point selection and how you can still shoot the camera without needing to use the touchscreen, and the 28mm FoV I\'m actually really liking, especially with how much subject separation it produces despite being such a wide angle.
Coming from the RX1, I\'m also quite impressed with the AF speed, but especially the ability to go into electronic shutter mode above 1/2000th. Needing to screw on/off ND\'s was kind of annoying.
I think the RX1rII really should of had either an electronic shutter option for faster shutter speed (the A7rII using the same sensor can do this) or have a built in ND filter (might required too much lens group redesign I guess?)
Yes, the Q is a lovely camera.
After shooting with the Q for a week now, I think there are 4 things I will miss from the RX1R2.
1. Swivel LCD -- This is a great feature to have on any camera. However, I rarely shoot with the LCD on my A7II (maybe 2-3% of my total shots) because I vastly prefer shooting with a viewfinder. I think I\'ll miss it most when the camera is mounted on a tripod. That\'s when a swivel LCD really helps.
2. Bokeh -- The Summilux on the Q is excellent in most categories and it\'s bokeh is great too.... unfortunately nothing comes close to the dreamy bokehliciousness of the RX1 Sonnar. It\'s also a bummer that the aperture switches to F2.8 when in macro mode. I really miss the shallow DoF of the RX1.
3. Dynamic range -- It\'s mind-boggling that the DR of the RX1R2 is better than the original because I was able to make HDR images from single files. Again, the Leica is not bad either, it\'s just that the Sony kills every other manufacturer when it comes to sensor tech.
4. Custom buttons -- The Q only has two custom buttons with limited options. I would really like to assign the Delete button for choosing AF mode (touchscreen preferably) I really hope Leica updates this with the next firmware.
What I like better on the Q
1. 24MP -- As I explained earlier, I believe this is the sweet spot for me. Any more resolution just slows down my workflow.
2. Manual focusing -- I\'ve gotten used to the RX1\'s focus-by-wire, and it was very effective when given the time to focus critically. The Q is also focus-by-wire but the focus throws aren\'t velocity-dependent. It focuses like a proper mechanical lens so it\'s much quicker and more intuitive. Also, the lens stays at F1.7 while focusing, so you can focus with a shallow DOF even if you choose a smaller aperture. This really helps nail the focus, along with the focus-peaking which is much more accurate than Sony\'s.
3. Operational speed -- The Q is faster and snappier at pretty much everything it does. My RX1 and the RX1R2 I tested always felt a half-step behind everything I tried to do. Not a knock on Sony btw. The Q is superior to most mirrorless cameras I\'ve tested in this regard.
4. EVF -- The RX1R2\'s EVF was bright with great clarity. I think it\'s even better than my A7II and equal to the Q. However, I only felt that way WITH the eyecup attached. And from initial reports, the eyecup seems to be an afterthought, so I have to give this one to the Q until a third-party manufacturer comes up with a solution.
5. Color -- Leica truly excels here. Skin tones are excellent OOC. I\'m basing this off the colors of my RX1 and A7II, and assuming the RX1R2 has similar Sony color palettes.
What I think is a wash
1. Size vs Ergonomics -- Let me explain. Yes, the RX1 is smaller, but both cameras desperately need a grip because the RX1 is too small and the Q is too slippery. I have a RRS L-bracket with grip fitted to my RX1, and I probably would have done the same to the RX1R2 (if I had gone that route) Likewise, I have a handgrip and thumbs up fitted on my Q. With those accessories, both cameras are no longer pocketable and needs to be stowed in a bag. So it\'s a wash.
2. High-ISO capability vs Image Stabilization -- The RX1 has 1-2 stops worth of extra ISO capability but the the Q has OIS that compensates for 3 stops worth of shutter speed. So when shooting in low light, it comes down to choosing between high ISO noise vs soft edges with OIS. Pick your poison.
3. AF speed -- I think both are fast enough for it\'s intended purpose (street use)
I\'ve yet to experience banding from my Q files, so I think that concludes my initial thoughts. Alot of it is personal and you can\'t go wrong with either camera imho. Neither is perfect.
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