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Re: Leica SL images and specs. Looks somehow familiar... | |
Steve Spencer wrote:
uhoh7 wrote:
sebboh wrote:
sebboh wrote:
for some people (me and at least 2 other guys) it is a miniaturization contest. the a7 is too damn big already. 
the size of the SL is fine for what it is (an R solution/continuation), but it\'s lame for people like me who were hoping for an evf based m lens platform.
uhoh7 wrote:
Well I\'m 110% with you, I doubt it\'s a surprise, but I don\'t think the SL means we\'ll never see one, as you probably agree. If anything all the innovation in this camera makes that prospect more likely.
i was including you as one of the 2 other guys. 
i don\'t really see a lot of innovation here, just putting together a bunch of stuff that leica already had elsewhere. this seems like a more serious commitment to T-mount though, which should increase the probability of getting a camera designed more for our preferences in the future...
haha I can\'t even believe I swallowed an M9. It\'s size and weight are a huge comprimise, but my lenses kiss me for it 
No innovation, oh, you are a hard sell!!
Best 4K specs period, no? 11FPS, no? Ming talks about the very fast selection of AF points, or something, you know how I feel about AF. Only use it for money. The mag steps, they have improved Sony\'s mag. The EVF is a light year ahead of everything, by all accounts. Very fast in every function.
I think you are blinded by the bulk 
charles.K wrote:
Leica have some of the best lens designers, and really should be producing in parallel Leica FE mount lenses. The market for the A7 series is growing, and having high end Leica FE mount lenses would over shadow most of the Loxia lenses even at a higher cost. You don\'t need to compete with AF, but have small/light lenses that would bring out the best in the latest A7\'s.
Maybe the target are the professionals, but most pros I speak to are cost conscious and very mindful of what equipment they invest in. Knowing there is basically only one AF lens available for now, most will not take the plunge.
I have loved the M9/MM and M240 as these cameras are seriously \"cool\" and unique and fun to use.
I am just puzzled...??
You are right on all these counts, Charles. It seems, like Apple and Adobe, Sony and Leica just cannot get along, despite their customers cash. It\'s incredible. But, in the spirit of schoolyard fights, \"Sony started it\" The fight that is. Leica, of course, started the entire format. No gratitude form these upstarts, like Zeiss!
freaklikeme wrote:
My first thought when I saw the initial pics and specs was, \"Doug\'s going to be very excited about this.\"
I really hope he makes the plunge and cannot wait to enjoy the results 
Charlie, it is not the best 4K specs because it is only 4K with a Super 35mm image circle. The A7s nearly the same 4K specs and uses the whole width of the sensor. That is a big deal for both depth of field and wide angles. The A7s will also ave better high ISO which is very nice for video as well. Still the SL should be second to the A7s with excellent 4K for the Super 35mm image circle and the samples so far look great. Nasty artifacts are well in check.
Good points Steve, and as an old Sony PD-170 shooter (100+weddings) I appreciate the info, as HD put me off video (the workflow, not the resutls), and I am not up on it first hand.
I admire the A7s2 (and the A7r2, believe it or not) very much, and I\'d love to have one to Kolari. But that would be for lowlight work only, where it is unmatched. In daylight, I\'d want a few more pixels, even 18 would be fine for stills, with good raws.

sebboh wrote:
i\'m pretty sure they\'re not first to do this and/or they did it in the x1 or something already. what i really want is picture in picture magnification for framing while focusing magnified, which somebody (maybe leica has already done several years ago?).
Yes, this is so obvious. What are they waiting for? Meaning all EVIL makers.
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