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Re: CaNikon will have to enter the mrrorless market.....


Atlasman2 wrote:
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freaklikeme wrote:
I\'m not saying that mirrorless isn\'t sapping sales from traditional DSLRs, I\'m just saying they aren\'t the only thing sapping sales away from DSLRs, nor is the mirrorless market made up entirely of people who would otherwise buy a DSLR.


I can only talk from my own personal experience here, but all photographers which I know and who switched or added a mirrorless camera came from a DSLR, most from Canon followed by second with Nikon gear. The majority went with a Sony A7 series camera, two switched to a Fuji mirrorless camera. I don\'t even know one case where somebody decided to get a mirrorless camera (of any kind) and just had a cellphone or P&S.


So long as major sporting events show a sea of white lens and DSLRs being used by the pro, the entry level will most like gravitate to DSLRs. Also, first-time buyers would, most likely buy at a camera store where most sales people are pushing what the pros use.

The Canon/Nikon entrenchment is deep and it will take time and considerable technology to unseat them. And then there\'s the possibility that both have fully developed mirrorless systems waiting for when the time is right!


Well, as I pointed out earlier, mirrorless is not there yet to replace DSLRs in all areas of photography - especially in sports shooting where Sony doesn\'t even has long lenses available yet either. I disagree what you stated afterwards - first time camera buyers are mostly intrigued by lowering size and bulk of their camera gear (if they are not into sports/event/wildlife shooting where other kind of lenses are required anyway).

Canon/Nikon have their strong and dominant position especially for sports/event/wildlife shooting wich they will likely maintain for a longer time. But in other areas of photography their position as camera market leaders is clearly challenged by the mirrorless emerging technology - both brands might start with suitable mirrorles systems when they already existed in other brands for quite a while. They pretty much will be too late to the party.

A good example is for example Canon latest 5Ds(R) - a great camera, just 3 years too late after Nikon came with the D800(E) and followed by the Sony A7R. People started switching and adding other systems to their existing Canon gear when Canon remained dormant to compete with the competitive sensor. I still have now to see a 5Ds(R) in the field - in my circle of photographers it is not much talked about this camera. 3 years ago people would have been intrigued to buy it as high MP FF camera when vested in Canon gear. A similar thing likely happens to Canon with mirrorless - when they finally come up with a (FF?) mirrorless camera, people already added another system to their gear and not many will switch back then.



Sep 21, 2015 at 07:50 AM
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Re: CaNikon will have to enter the mrrorless market.....


Atlasman2 wrote:
retrofocus wrote:
freaklikeme wrote:
I\'m not saying that mirrorless isn\'t sapping sales from traditional DSLRs, I\'m just saying they aren\'t the only thing sapping sales away from DSLRs, nor is the mirrorless market made up entirely of people who would otherwise buy a DSLR.


I can only talk from my own personal experience here, but all photographers which I know and who switched or added a mirrorless camera came from a DSLR, most from Canon followed by second with Nikon gear. The majority went with a Sony A7 series camera, two switched to a Fuji mirrorless camera. I don\'t even know one case where somebody decided to get a mirrorless camera (of any kind) and just had a cellphone or P&S.


So long as major sporting events show a sea of white lens and DSLRs being used by the pro, the entry level will most like gravitate to DSLRs. Also, first-time buyers would, most likely buy at a camera store where most sales people are pushing what the pros use.

The Canon/Nikon entrenchment is deep and it will take time and considerable technology to unseat them. And then there\'s the possibility that both have fully developed mirrorless systems waiting for when the time is right!


Well, as I pointed out earlier, mirrorless is not there yet to replace DSLRs in all areas of photography - especially in sports shooting where Sony doesn\'t even has long lenses available yet either. I disagree what you stated afterwards - first time camera buyers are mostly intrigued by lowering size and bulk of their camera gear (if they are not into sports/event/wildlife shooting where other kind of lenses are required anyway).

Canon/Nikon have their strong and dominant position especially for sports/event/wildlife shooting wich they will likely maintain for a longer time. But in other areas of photography their position as camera market leaders is clearly challenged by the mirrorless emerging technology - both brands might start with suitable mirrorles systems when they already existed in other brands for quite a while. They pretty much will be too late to the party.

A good example is for example Canon latest 5Ds(R) - a great camera, just 3 years too late after Nikon came with the D800(E) and followed by the Sony A7R. People started switching and adding other systems to their existing Canon gear when Canon remained dormant to compete with the competitive sensor. I still have now to see a 5Ds(R) in the field - in my circle of photographers it is not much talked about this camera. 3 years ago people would have been intrigued to buy it as high MP FF camera when vested in Canon gear. A similar thing likely happens to Canon with mirrorless - when the finally come up with a (FF?) mirrorless camera, people already added another system to their gear and not many will switch back then.



Sep 21, 2015 at 07:50 AM
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Re: CaNikon will have to enter the mrrorless market.....


Atlasman2 wrote:
retrofocus wrote:
freaklikeme wrote:
I\'m not saying that mirrorless isn\'t sapping sales from traditional DSLRs, I\'m just saying they aren\'t the only thing sapping sales away from DSLRs, nor is the mirrorless market made up entirely of people who would otherwise buy a DSLR.


I can only talk from my own personal experience here, but all photographers which I know and who switched or added a mirrorless camera came from a DSLR, most from Canon followed by second with Nikon gear. The majority went with a Sony A7 series camera, two switched to a Fuji mirrorless camera. I don\'t even know one case where somebody decided to get a mirrorless camera (of any kind) and just had a cellphone or P&S.


So long as major sporting events show a sea of white lens and DSLRs being used by the pro, the entry level will most like gravitate to DSLRs. Also, first-time buyers would, most likely buy at a camera store where most sales people are pushing what the pros use.

The Canon/Nikon entrenchment is deep and it will take time and considerable technology to unseat them. And then there\'s the possibility that both have fully developed mirrorless systems waiting for when the time is right!


Well, as I pointed out earlier, mirrorless is not there yet to replace DSLRs in all areas of photography - especially in sports shooting where Sony doesn\'t even has long lenses available yet either. I disagree what you stated afterwards - first time camera buyers are mostly intrigued by lowering size and bulk of their camera gear (if they are not into sports/event/wildlife shooting where other kind of lenses are required anyway).

Canon/Nikon have their strong and dominant position especially for sports/event/wildlife shooting wich they will likely maintain for a longer time. But in other areas of photography their position as camera market leaders is clearly challenged by the mirrorless emerging technology - both brands might start with suitable mirrorles systems when they already existed in other brands for quite a while. They pretty much will be too late to the party.



Sep 21, 2015 at 07:40 AM





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