Re: CaNikon will have to enter the mrrorless market.....
chez wrote:
cvrle59 wrote:
dasrocket wrote: wiseguy010 wrote:
I still don\'t understand why the existence or non-existence of a mirror in a camera is supposed to be that important apart from a little bit of size and weight. When I look at the latest Nikon 300 mm lens it proves that substantial smaller lenses are also possible with the current F-mount.
I still prefer the bigger and heavier camera\'s of Nikon and Canon above those tiny cameras because of the stability of these cameras in my hands.
EVFs. That is the biggest difference and the reason I gave up on DSLRs a long time ago.
Obviously, it suits your needs well, that\'s fine. But, OVF will never go away completely. There will be always market for it. It is as fast as the light is, so EVF will never reach there, period. It\'s matter of physics, not Sony, Nikon, Canon, Samsung, or any other manufacturer. We will be always dealing with that comprise, and there are still a lot of people out there, who would appreciate speed of light more than all the information on that little screen.
But when the EVF is fast enough that you can\'t tell the difference, then it is basically the speed of light. TV for my purpose is realtime enough...
It all depends what you use it for. As long as have options, I wouldn\'t pick any of the EVF based cameras on today\'s market to shoot basketball game, even they are capable from the other aspects (focus tracking and so on). There is no one little thing that would make me to think that it makes it better than OVF. I tried Olympus, Fuji and Sony A7II so far. I can\'t comment on Sony A7RII, I haven\'t touched yet. I don\'t care what info that little screen shows up when I\'m shooting action. I would adjust my parameters at the beginning of the game, and I keep hunting special moments. I could delete everything from that screen during those moments. Do I care about manual focusing and focus picking for this kind shooting, not at all. I think people celebrated a lot when first AF lenses came out, especially action shooting photographers. The other situation, where I wasn\'t happy with EVF, is being outside on a bright sunny day, people already mentioned that. All I\'m saying is, it\'s nice to have them both, I would be very happy to be able to buy a solid pro-body camera with a hybrid VF, optical and electronic, selectable. Is it gonna happen, not sure.
Re: CaNikon will have to enter the mrrorless market.....
chez wrote:
cvrle59 wrote:
dasrocket wrote: wiseguy010 wrote:
I still don\'t understand why the existence or non-existence of a mirror in a camera is supposed to be that important apart from a little bit of size and weight. When I look at the latest Nikon 300 mm lens it proves that substantial smaller lenses are also possible with the current F-mount.
I still prefer the bigger and heavier camera\'s of Nikon and Canon above those tiny cameras because of the stability of these cameras in my hands.
EVFs. That is the biggest difference and the reason I gave up on DSLRs a long time ago.
Obviously, it suits your needs well, that\'s fine. But, OVF will never go away completely. There will be always market for it. It is as fast as the light is, so EVF will never reach there, period. It\'s matter of physics, not Sony, Nikon, Canon, Samsung, or any other manufacturer. We will be always dealing with that comprise, and there are still a lot of people out there, who would appreciate speed of light more than all the information on that little screen.
But when the EVF is fast enough that you can\'t tell the difference, then it is basically the speed of light. TV for my purpose is realtime enough...
It all depends what you use it for. As long as have options, I wouldn\'t pick any of the EVF based cameras on today\'s market to shoot basketball game, even they are capable from the other aspects (focus tracking and so on). There is no one little thing that would make me to think that it makes it better than OVF. I tried Olympus, Fuji and Sony A7II so far. I can\'t comment on Sony A7RII, I haven\'t touched yet. I don\'t care what info that little screen shows up when I\'m shooting action. I would adjust my parameters at the beginning of the game, and I keep hunting special moments. I could delete everything from that screen during those moments. Do I care about manual focusing and focus picking for this kind shooting, not at all. I think people celebrated a lot when first AF lenses came out, especially action shooting photographers. The other situation where I wasn\'t happy with EVF is, being outside on a bright sunny day, people already mentioned that. All I\'m saying is, it\'s nice to have them both, I would be very happy to be able to buy a solid pro-body camera with a hybrid VF, optical and electronic, selectable. Is it gonna happen, not sure.
Re: CaNikon will have to enter the mrrorless market.....
chez wrote:
cvrle59 wrote:
dasrocket wrote: wiseguy010 wrote:
I still don\'t understand why the existence or non-existence of a mirror in a camera is supposed to be that important apart from a little bit of size and weight. When I look at the latest Nikon 300 mm lens it proves that substantial smaller lenses are also possible with the current F-mount.
I still prefer the bigger and heavier camera\'s of Nikon and Canon above those tiny cameras because of the stability of these cameras in my hands.
EVFs. That is the biggest difference and the reason I gave up on DSLRs a long time ago.
Obviously, it suits your needs well, that\'s fine. But, OVF will never go away completely. There will be always market for it. It is as fast as the light is, so EVF will never reach there, period. It\'s matter of physics, not Sony, Nikon, Canon, Samsung, or any other manufacturer. We will be always dealing with that comprise, and there are still a lot of people out there, who would appreciate speed of light more than all the information on that little screen.
But when the EVF is fast enough that you can\'t tell the difference, then it is basically the speed of light. TV for my purpose is realtime enough...
It all depends what you use it for. As long as have options, I wouldn\'t pick any of the EVF based cameras on today\'s market to shoot basketball game, even they are capable from the other aspects (focus tracking and so on). There is no one little thing that would make me to think that it makes it better than OVF. I tried Olympus, Fuji and Sony A7II so far. I can\'t comment on Sony A7RII, I haven\'t touched yet. I don\'t care what info that little screen shows up when I\'m shooting action. I would adjust my parameters at the beginning of the game, and I keep hunting special moments. I could delete everything from that screen during those moments. The other situation where I wasn\'t happy with EVF is, being outside on a bright sunny day, people already mentioned that. All I\'m saying is, it\'s nice to have them both, I would be very happy to be able to buy a solid pro-body camera with a hybrid VF, optical and electronic, selectable. Is it gonna happen, not sure.
Sep 19, 2015 at 01:46 PM
Previous versions of cvrle59's message #13206278 « CaNikon will have to enter the mirrorless market..... »
