Re: Interesting Reference Data on Dynamic Range - 5dsr
jctriguy wrote: No one is disputing your right to pick the camera gear that satifies your needs. However, you and several others, seem to say that people who don\'t pick DR as a main factor just don\'t understand the technology and don\'t understand IQ. You make similar claims about weight and MF abilities, trying to tell people that they just don\'t understand how much better a Sony body is compared to Canon. This is a very experienced crowd here, most of us can make our own informed decisions...
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alundeb wrote: gdanmitchell wrote:
If higher DR is always better, why would anyone own and shoot with anything but the one camera that has higher DR. That camera is always better, right? ;-)
I think it was meant to be with everything else being equal.
If so, that would be a statement that virtually anyone would agree with. I certainly do and have said so many times.
I also would not and have not disagreed with your general point about people coming to different decisions about what is best for them — in fact that has long been one of my mantras about this stuff. I\'d bet that the majority of folks in these discussion would agree that a) DR is one of several performance parameters to consider, b) \"if all else is equal,\" having more DR is a fine thing, c) various photographs have intelligent and legitimate reasons for selecting different kinds of gear.
Done and done. Or not.
I think virtually all of us are fine with someone deciding to get some camera because they weight DR more heavily than we might or because they already own lenses that work with it or because they like the way it handles or because they got a deal on one or because it works really well for their photography or because they wanted to try it out or...
I know I am.
But we\'re almost all very all tired of a few who have a constant need repeatedly to tell us a) why their choice is the best, right, or only smart choice, and b) why those making a different choice are foolish, ignorant, fanboys and all of the other things that they either imply or name explicity*, c) how we could be better people, and d) among whom there are a few who characterize other points of view as \"trolling,\" etc.*
Re: Interesting Reference Data on Dynamic Range - 5dsr
jctriguy wrote: No one is disputing your right to pick the camera gear that satifies your needs. However, you and several others, seem to say that people who don\'t pick DR as a main factor just don\'t understand the technology and don\'t understand IQ. You make similar claims about weight and MF abilities, trying to tell people that they just don\'t understand how much better a Sony body is compared to Canon. This is a very experienced crowd here, most of us can make our own informed decisions...
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alundeb wrote: gdanmitchell wrote:
If higher DR is always better, why would anyone own and shoot with anything but the one camera that has higher DR. That camera is always better, right? ;-)
I think it was meant to be with everything else being equal.
If so, that would be a statement that virtually anyone would agree with. I certainly do and have said so many times.
I also would not and have not disagreed with your general point about people coming to different decisions about what is best for them — in fact that has long been one of my mantras about this stuff. I\'d bet that the majority of folks in these discussion would agree that a) DR is one of several performance parameters to consider, b) \"if all else is equal,\" having more DR is a fine thing, c) various photographs have intelligent and legitimate reasons for selecting different kinds of gear.
Done and done. Or not.
I think virtually all of us are fine with someone deciding to get some camera because they weight DR more heavily than we might or because they already own lenses that work with it or because they like the way it handles or because they got a deal on one or because it works really well for their photography or because they wanted to try it out or...
I know I am.
But we\'re almost all very all tired of a few who have a constant need repeatedly to tell us a) why their choice is the best, right, or only smart choice, and b) why those making a different choice are foolish, ignorant, fanboys and all of the other things that they either imply or name explicity*, c) how we could be better people, and d) among whom there are a few who characterize other points of view as \"trolling,\" etc.*
Re: Interesting Reference Data on Dynamic Range - 5dsr
jctriguy wrote: No one is disputing your right to pick the camera gear that satifies your needs. However, you and several others, seem to say that people who don\'t pick DR as a main factor just don\'t understand the technology and don\'t understand IQ. You make similar claims about weight and MF abilities, trying to tell people that they just don\'t understand how much better a Sony body is compared to Canon. This is a very experienced crowd here, most of us can make our own informed decisions...
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alundeb wrote: gdanmitchell wrote:
If higher DR is always better, why would anyone own and shoot with anything but the one camera that has higher DR. That camera is always better, right? ;-)
I think it was meant to be with everything else being equal.
If so, that would be a statement that virtually anyone would agree with. I certainly do and have said so many times.
I also would not and have not disagreed with your general point about people coming to different decisions about what is best for them — in fact that has long been one of my mantras about this stuff. I\'d bet that the majority of folks in these discussion would agree that a) DR is one of several performance parameters to consider, b) \"if all else is equal,\" having more DR is a fine thing, c) various photographs have intelligent and legitimate reasons for selecting different kinds of gear.
Done and done. Or not.
I think virtually all of us are fine with someone deciding to get some camera because they weight DR more heavily than we might or because they already own lenses that work with it or because they like the way it handles or because they got a deal on one or because it works really well for their photography or because they wanted to try it out or...
I know I am.
But we\'re almost all very all tired of a few who have a constant need repeatedly to tell us a) why their choice is the best, right, or only smart choice, and b) why those making a different choice are foolish, ignorant, fanboys and all of the other things that they either imply or name explicity*, c) how we could be better people, and d) among whom there are a few who characterize other points of view as \"trolling,\" etc.*
Re: Interesting Reference Data on Dynamic Range - 5dsr
jctriguy wrote: No one is disputing your right to pick the camera gear that satifies your needs. However, you and several others, seem to say that people who don\'t pick DR as a main factor just don\'t understand the technology and don\'t understand IQ. You make similar claims about weight and MF abilities, trying to tell people that they just don\'t understand how much better a Sony body is compared to Canon. This is a very experienced crowd here, most of us can make our own informed decisions...
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alundeb wrote: gdanmitchell wrote:
If higher DR is always better, why would anyone own and shoot with anything but the one camera that has higher DR. That camera is always better, right? ;-)
I think it was meant to be with everything else being equal.
If so, that would be a statement that virtually anyone would agree with. I certainly do and have said so many times.
I also would not and have not disagreed with your general point about people coming to different decisions about what is best for them — in fact that has long been one of my mantras about this stuff. I\'d bet that the majority of folks in these discussion would agree that a) DR is one of several performance parameters to consider, b) \"if all else is equal,\" having more DR is a fine thing, c) various photographs have intelligent and legitimate reasons for selecting different kinds of gear.
Done and done. Or not.
I think virtually all of us are fine with someone deciding to get some camera because they weight DR more heavily than we might or because they already own lenses that work with it or because they like the way it handles or because they got a deal on one or because it works really well for their photography or because they wanted to try it out or...
I know I am.
But we\'re almost all very all tired of a few who have a constant need repeatedly to tell us a) why their choice is the best, right, or only smart choice, and b) why those making a different choice are foolish, ignorant, fanboys and all of the other things that they either imply or name explicity*, c) how we could be better people, and d) among whom there are a few who characterize any other points of view as \"trolling,\" etc.*
Re: Interesting Reference Data on Dynamic Range - 5dsr
jctriguy wrote: No one is disputing your right to pick the camera gear that satifies your needs. However, you and several others, seem to say that people who don\'t pick DR as a main factor just don\'t understand the technology and don\'t understand IQ. You make similar claims about weight and MF abilities, trying to tell people that they just don\'t understand how much better a Sony body is compared to Canon. This is a very experienced crowd here, most of us can make our own informed decisions...
+100
alundeb wrote: gdanmitchell wrote:
If higher DR is always better, why would anyone own and shoot with anything but the one camera that has higher DR. That camera is always better, right? ;-)
I think it was meant to be with everything else being equal.
If so, that would be a statement that virtually anyone would agree with. I certainly do and have said so many times.
I also would not and have not disagreed with your general point about people coming to different decisions about what is best for them — in fact that has long been one of my mantras about this stuff. I\'d bet that the majority of folks in these discussion would agree that a) DR is one of several performance parameters to consider, b) \"if all else is equal,\" having more DR is a fine thing, c) various photographs have intelligent and legitimate reasons for selecting different kinds of gear.
Done and done. Or not.
I think virtually all of us are fine with someone deciding to get some camera because they weight DR more heavily than we might or because they already own lenses that work with it or because they like the way it handles or because they got a deal on one or because it works really well for their photography or because they wanted to try it out or...
I know I am.
But we\'re almost all very all tired of a few who have a constant need repeatedly to tell us a) why their choice is the best, right, or only smart choice, and b) why those making a different choice are foolish, ignorant, fanboys and all of the other things that they either imply or name explicitly*, c) how we could be better people, and d) among whom there are a few who characterize any other points of view as \"trolling,\" etc.*
Re: Interesting Reference Data on Dynamic Range - 5dsr
jctriguy wrote: No one is disputing your right to pick the camera gear that satifies your needs. However, you and several others, seem to say that people who don\'t pick DR as a main factor just don\'t understand the technology and don\'t understand IQ. You make similar claims about weight and MF abilities, trying to tell people that they just don\'t understand how much better a Sony body is compared to Canon. This is a very experienced crowd here, most of us can make our own informed decisions...
+100
alundeb wrote: gdanmitchell wrote:
If higher DR is always better, why would anyone own and shoot with anything but the one camera that has higher DR. That camera is always better, right? ;-)
I think it was meant to be with everything else being equal.
If so, that would be a statement that virtually anyone would agree with. I certainly do and have said so many times.
I also would not and have not disagreed with your general point about people coming to different decisions about what is best for them — in fact that has long been one of my mantras about this stuff. In fact, I\'d bet that the majority of folks in these discussion would agree that a) DR is one of several performance parameters to consider, b) \"if all else is equal,\" having more DR is a fine thing, c) various photographs have intelligent and legitimate reasons for selecting different kinds of gear.
I think virtually all of us are fine with someone deciding to get some camera because they weight DR more heavily than we might or because they already own lenses that work with it or because they like the way it handles or because they got a deal on one or because it works really well for their photography or...
I know I am.
But we\'re all tired of a few who have a constant need repeatedly to tell us a) why their choice is the best, right, or only smart choice, and b) why those making a different choice are foolish, ignorant, fanboys and all of the other things that they either imply or name explicitly*, and c) among whom there are a few who characterize any other points of view as \"trolling,\" etc.*
Re: Interesting Reference Data on Dynamic Range - 5dsr
jctriguy wrote: No one is disputing your right to pick the camera gear that satifies your needs. However, you and several others, seem to say that people who don\'t pick DR as a main factor just don\'t understand the technology and don\'t understand IQ. You make similar claims about weight and MF abilities, trying to tell people that they just don\'t understand how much better a Sony body is compared to Canon. This is a very experienced crowd here, most of us can make our own informed decisions...
+100
alundeb wrote: gdanmitchell wrote:
If higher DR is always better, why would anyone own and shoot with anything but the one camera that has higher DR. That camera is always better, right? ;-)
I think it was meant to be with everything else being equal.
If so, that would be a statement that virtually anyone would agree with. I certainly do and have said so many times.
I also would not and have not disagreed with your general point about people coming to different decisions about what is best for them — in fact that has long been one of my mantras about this stuff. In fact, I\'d bet that the majority of folks in these discussion would agree that a) DR is one of several performance parameters to consider, b) \"if all else is equal,\" having more DR is a fine thing, c) various photographs have intelligent and legitimate reasons for selecting different kinds of gear.
I think virtually all of us are fine with someone deciding to get some camera because they weight DR more heavily than we might or because they already own lenses that work with it or because they like the way it handles or because they got a deal on one or because it works really well for their photography or...
I know I am.
But we\'re all tired of a few who have a constant need repeatedly to tell us a) why their choice is the best, right, or only smart choice, and b) why those making a different choice are foolish, ignorant, fanboys and all of the other things that they either imply or name explicitly, and c) among whom there are a few who characterize any other points of view as \"trolling,\" etc.
Re: Interesting Reference Data on Dynamic Range - 5dsr
jctriguy wrote: No one is disputing your right to pick the camera gear that satifies your needs. However, you and several others, seem to say that people who don\'t pick DR as a main factor just don\'t understand the technology and don\'t understand IQ. You make similar claims about weight and MF abilities, trying to tell people that they just don\'t understand how much better a Sony body is compared to Canon. This is a very experienced crowd here, most of us can make our own informed decisions...
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alundeb wrote: gdanmitchell wrote:
If higher DR is always better, why would anyone own and shoot with anything but the one camera that has higher DR. That camera is always better, right? ;-)
I think it was meant to be with everything else being equal.
If so, that would be a statement that virtually anyone would agree with. I certainly do and have said so many times.
Re: Interesting Reference Data on Dynamic Range - 5dsr
jctriguy wrote: No one is disputing your right to pick the camera gear that satifies your needs. However, you and several others, seem to say that people who don\'t pick DR as a main factor just don\'t understand the technology and don\'t understand IQ. You make similar claims about weight and MF abilities, trying to tell people that they just don\'t understand how much better a Sony body is compared to Canon. This is a very experienced crowd here, most of us can make our own informed decisions...
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