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Re: Photo: RRS plate on 5DS R


I strongly agree.

First, I\'m a fan or RSS. I own several of their heads and a bunch of L-plates, lens plates, and other odds and ends. Eventually I will own one of their tripods. (I\'m waiting for my current non-RRS tripod to wear out just a bit more first.) I find their equipment to be very well designed and constructed, and it is worth the cost. I recommend it to others who ask.

I had their L-plate for the original 5D, and I still have their L-plate for the 5DII. With only one tiny quibble (a tiny bit more space between the upper part of the plate and the side of the 5DII would have been nice), I love the way the 5DII plate has worked. Because it is compact and light I simply leave it on the body at all times, even when shooting handheld. The plate is solid, quick and reliable to use, and the camera/plate assembly fits nicely into the bags I use for my gear when traveling or when hiking.

I do not at all like the idea of a larger, bulkier, and heavier L plate for my 5Ds R. I have the plate on order, but I\'m giving serious thought to canceling the order. (On a temporary basis I have one of their basic non-L plates that allows me to use the camera on my BH-55 ball head.) In fact, it another manufacturer does come out with a solid-looking alternative that has more of the profile of the older RRS L plate for my 5DII I will likely purchase that instead.

RRS, I love your products. I own a number of them and I plan to purchase more, including tripods. I\'m not thrilled by where you are going with this plate. I\'ve read your explanation, but I\'m unconvinced.

Dan

Jeff Fenske wrote:
Rob573 wrote:
The day O pre-ordered my Canon EOS 5DS and my Canon EOS 5DS-\"R\" I went ahead and ordered 2 each of the EOS MARK 5 D III L Plate (the one one for use with the Canon BG-E11 Battery Grip (As I use the battery grip on all my canon bodies due to my business).
I am pleased to report that the RRS plates installed easily an look well. The L Plates are tight and secure without forcing them into place. The cable guide works well wit this L Plate from the Canon EOS Mark III.
At this time I see no reason to wait for the remanufactured plate for the Canon EOS 5DS and 5DS \"R\".
Even IF they continue custom making the two (2) piece plate fro the EOS 5DS & 5DS\"R\" I doubt that ti would appeal to me. Fooling around with two pieces that become on have never been fun for me and I have never had a product such as that which ended up being as strong as a single piece and the poor esthetics make me want to set it aside.


Well said! The 5D3 L-plate seems to fit without any movement at all, at least for now. Could this change after years of use? I doubt it, but if so, then aluminum tape may be necessary in some places. But why don\'t they make a lighter, one-piece plate, instead of this overbuilt, heavy, beefy thing? Their statement: \"To see a similar example of modular plate design in action, check out our *robust* L-Plate Set for the larger Canon 1DX.\"

This is HORRIBLE, and a disturbing trend! For now, we have the option to get the lighter 5D3 version, but what if the 5DsR2 no longer fits a lighter weight, currently built plate? I hope RRS reconsiders, and makes a one-piece model for the majority of us 5DsR users, who don\'t want to carry around 5 more ounces (ALMOST 1/3 POUND!), and as you say, one-piece is usually better than two, which is maybe why they have to make it so much heavier (the 1DX bracket is 5.1 oz. heavier 8.8 oz. verses 3.7 oz. for the 5D3 plate).

[Maybe the difference would be more like 1/4 POUND, though, because the 1DX is taller.]

Many of us hike with our cameras, and handhold them at times. 5 ounces that serve no purpose can be a lot, especially as we get older. Canon spends thousands of hours making their cameras as lightweight as possible, and RRS does this?!!

The 5DsR body is actually slightly LIGHTER than the 5D3, so why make a heavier plate for it? The earlier design of the 5D2 and 5D3 plates stood the test of 6 years. If it was sturdy enough for them it\'s sturdy enough for the 5DsR. Maybe a few users are going to use the 2.6 pound Zeiss Otus 85mm, but the current, lightweight design is probably stout enough for that too. Many have used the heavy 14-24mm Nikon on the 5D3 without problems. I know that longer lenses would show more movement, but the 14-24mm is often used to shoot stars, and the current, BEEFY-ENOUGH L-plate works perfectly.

Maybe RRS is trying to appease those who believe that 50MPs will require a lot more rigidity. But it won\'t. If the 5D2 and 5D3 brackets were properly designed to survive the most detailed pixel peeping for sharpness, the 5DsR will also.

I have a lot of RRS gear, and everything seems to be perfectly designed to be stout enough without overkill, so far. But this is ridiculous!

Please, RRS, reconsider, and build a standard, STOUT-ENOUGH, 1-piece plate for this too.

The thought of carrying an extra 1/4 pound around for no reason makes is repulsive, and doesn\'t seem to be in line with RRS\' previous design achievements.




Jun 19, 2015 at 12:34 PM
gdanmitchell
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Re: Photo: RRS plate on 5DS R


I strongly agree.

First, I\'m a fan or RSS. I own several of their heads and a bunch of L-plates, lens plates, and other odds and ends. Eventually I will own one of their tripods. (I\'m waiting for my current non-RRS tripod to wear out just a bit more first.) I find their equipment to be very well designed and constructed, and it is worth the cost. I recommend it to others who ask.

I had their L-plate for the original 5D, and I still have their L-plate for the 5DII. With only one tiny quibble (a tiny bit more space between the upper part of the plate and the side of the 5DII would have been nice), I love the way the 5DII plate has worked. Because it is compact and light I simply leave it on the body at all times, even when shooting handheld. The plate is solid, quick and reliable to use, and the camera/plate assembly fits nicely into the bags I use for my gear when traveling or when hiking.

I do not at all like the idea of a larger, bulkier, and heavier L plate for my 5Ds R. I have the plate on order, but I\'m giving serious thought to canceling the order. (On a temporary basis I have one of their basic non-L plates that allows me to use the camera on my BH-55 ball head.) In fact, it another manufacturer does come out with a solid-looking alternative that has more of the profile of the older RRS L plate for my 5DII I will likely purchase that instead.

RRS, I love your products. I\'m not thrilled by where you are going with this plate. I\'ve read your explanation, but I\'m unconvinced.

Dan

Jeff Fenske wrote:
Rob573 wrote:
The day O pre-ordered my Canon EOS 5DS and my Canon EOS 5DS-\"R\" I went ahead and ordered 2 each of the EOS MARK 5 D III L Plate (the one one for use with the Canon BG-E11 Battery Grip (As I use the battery grip on all my canon bodies due to my business).
I am pleased to report that the RRS plates installed easily an look well. The L Plates are tight and secure without forcing them into place. The cable guide works well wit this L Plate from the Canon EOS Mark III.
At this time I see no reason to wait for the remanufactured plate for the Canon EOS 5DS and 5DS \"R\".
Even IF they continue custom making the two (2) piece plate fro the EOS 5DS & 5DS\"R\" I doubt that ti would appeal to me. Fooling around with two pieces that become on have never been fun for me and I have never had a product such as that which ended up being as strong as a single piece and the poor esthetics make me want to set it aside.


Well said! The 5D3 L-plate seems to fit without any movement at all, at least for now. Could this change after years of use? I doubt it, but if so, then aluminum tape may be necessary in some places. But why don\'t they make a lighter, one-piece plate, instead of this overbuilt, heavy, beefy thing? Their statement: \"To see a similar example of modular plate design in action, check out our *robust* L-Plate Set for the larger Canon 1DX.\"

This is HORRIBLE, and a disturbing trend! For now, we have the option to get the lighter 5D3 version, but what if the 5DsR2 no longer fits a lighter weight, currently built plate? I hope RRS reconsiders, and makes a one-piece model for the majority of us 5DsR users, who don\'t want to carry around 5 more ounces (ALMOST 1/3 POUND!), and as you say, one-piece is usually better than two, which is maybe why they have to make it so much heavier (the 1DX bracket is 5.1 oz. heavier 8.8 oz. verses 3.7 oz. for the 5D3 plate).

[Maybe the difference would be more like 1/4 POUND, though, because the 1DX is taller.]

Many of us hike with our cameras, and handhold them at times. 5 ounces that serve no purpose can be a lot, especially as we get older. Canon spends thousands of hours making their cameras as lightweight as possible, and RRS does this?!!

The 5DsR body is actually slightly LIGHTER than the 5D3, so why make a heavier plate for it? The earlier design of the 5D2 and 5D3 plates stood the test of 6 years. If it was sturdy enough for them it\'s sturdy enough for the 5DsR. Maybe a few users are going to use the 2.6 pound Zeiss Otus 85mm, but the current, lightweight design is probably stout enough for that too. Many have used the heavy 14-24mm Nikon on the 5D3 without problems. I know that longer lenses would show more movement, but the 14-24mm is often used to shoot stars, and the current, BEEFY-ENOUGH L-plate works perfectly.

Maybe RRS is trying to appease those who believe that 50MPs will require a lot more rigidity. But it won\'t. If the 5D2 and 5D3 brackets were properly designed to survive the most detailed pixel peeping for sharpness, the 5DsR will also.

I have a lot of RRS gear, and everything seems to be perfectly designed to be stout enough without overkill, so far. But this is ridiculous!

Please, RRS, reconsider, and build a standard, STOUT-ENOUGH, 1-piece plate for this too.

The thought of carrying an extra 1/4 pound around for no reason makes is repulsive, and doesn\'t seem to be in line with RRS\' previous design achievements.




Jun 19, 2015 at 10:50 AM





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