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sebboh wrote:
edwardkaraa wrote:
In my opinion the best displays are the old 72 ppi ones. The higher the pixel density the worse it gets in terms of viewing photos at 100% to judge sharpness. Granted the retina screens look gorgeous to display images but I\'m not so sure about their usefulness to us photographers.


argh! i can\'t even look at pictures from normal distance on a 72 ppi screen. i don\'t just see the pixels, i see the 3 separate colors of each pixel. it gives me a headache.

adamdewilde wrote:
Kalainen wrote:
adamdewilde wrote:
But again to keep things short. I wish Zeiss would really take a moment to look at classic cult lenses, and to try and replicate them, but pay very close attention to rendering and color characteristics (and how the lens reacts with modern sensors).

Isn\'t Loxia exactly that? Not perfect by any means, but very nice overall rendering...



I\'m not a huge fan of the Loxia lenses.. But sorry I think I should have mentioned AF versions of cult classics.
If I wanted to use MF lenses I could easily just pickup the C/Y 35/1.4 or etc.


i was hoping that\'s what the loxia line would be (i don\'t want AF), but i don\'t really think the zm 35/2 or zm 50/2 as classic zeiss favorites. what other cult classics were you thinking of besides the c/y 35/1.4?

i was hoping for lenses with the looks of the contax g 21/2.8, contax g 28/2.8, c/y 35/1.4, zm 50/1.5 sonnar, and contarex 85/2 with modernized coatings, physical and electronic aperture, and well built compact designs.

somewhat on topic, the 85/1.8 images do remind a lot of the look of previous zeiss 85/2 sonnars – they\'ve all had cat\'s eyes and somewhat high contrast bokeh.



I have that problem with older monitors as well... Guess my eyes are better then I thought.

AF/MF aside. Talking about good zeiss lenses IMO, keep in mind I like things for my own reasons:
(and it\'s late, so I might be forgetting something I\'ve owned, I have my personal lens comment list on my desktop computer that I\'m not looking at.. So this is off the top of my head)

Contax C/Y:
28/2
35/1.4
100/2
100/3.5 (seriously, nice rendering close up, then not fantastic)

Contax 645:
45/2.8 (mixed feelings)
80/2 (really mixed feelings, verging on \"not a good lens\")
120/4 Macro
140/2.8 (think it\'s more the format and length then actual fondness of lens)

Contax G:
28/2.8
45/2 (a bit quirky for my taste, but I\'ll leave it in)
90/2.8

Zeiss ZM:
21/2.8
25/2.8
35/2.8
50/1.5 (love/hate, when the bokeh is smooth I love, when it\'s jagged I\'m not impressed, generally avoid bright spots on background)

Zeiss ZE/ZF/etc:
21/2.8 (I love me some moustache distortion)
25/2 (very 3D if there is such a thing)
35/2 (hate the bokeh, but one of the most 3D and lifelike rendering lenses, if there is such a thing)
35/1.4 (some reason, I like the C/Y better, couldn\'t tell you why. Maybe the bokeh is more textural on the C/Y)
50MPZE (This one you need to learn when/what to shoot with it, or the results can be bad)
85/1.4 (Actually wish this were better corrected, but in the right light conditions it\'s awesome)
100MPZE (awesome)
(Yes I love the ZE lenses. About once a year I email Zeiss asking if I can pay to have AF versions made. The responses range from NO to it\'s not possible for the design, to it\'s not within our current contractual/partnership rights.)


And I\'m going to toss this out there... But nothing beats the Jupiter9 85mm if you get a good copy (good copy as in sharp at f/2). It\'s brilliant for older style rendering.. I wish they could take that lens and make it better (flare, sharpness, even performance) somehow without messing with it\'s close up to mid distance look.

Oh and I know we\'re talking Zeiss.. And I know you all know I\'m really into Leica M (so many good lenses, old and new). And you can\'t fault anyone for loving the S-system lenses (35,70,120 AMAZING, also sure the others are good too). BUT I\'m really falling back into love with the 35/1.4-R, 50/1.4-R lately... Been flickr stalking the lenses. In fact, I\'m contemplating buying good copies of the three mentioned lenses, but I\'m hesitant as I\'ve spent all of 2015 thus far trying to minimise my lens collection.



Jun 02, 2015 at 01:56 PM





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