Re: A thinner sensor stack may be possible after all!
Lee Saxon wrote: sebboh wrote:
cosina is building all of zeiss\'s lenses except the zm 15/2.8 (made in germany) and the AF ones that are made by sony and fuji.
all the zm (except 85/2 and 15/2.8), ZE, and ZF are made by cosina in japan.
even worse, most of the old zeiss lenses were made by other companies in japan (contax) or singapore (rollei).
\"even worse\" ? I think Cosina is doing a spectacular job. The stuff they make themselves under the Voigtlander brand is well made too.
Also, I thought the cine lenses (not the rehoused ZF\'s, the real ones) were still made in Germany? And I thought the Japan thing started with the C/Y lenses and the ZF/ZE/etc line growing out of that once it ended; I had no idea the classic Hasselblad / Rollei stuff wasn\'t even German. Not that it really matters though, all you get for the increasingly absurd German price premium, at least these days, is awful quality control, if the stories about Leica are true.
I like Cosina too, though CV has had huge copy variations with lenses like the 21/4. And there is the Zeiss wobble, which was not handled well. As to issues with Leica quality control in germany, where are you getting that?
I\'m not hearing it about current M lenses, and I\'ve been watching boards filled with Leica haters ready to pounce
Of course you get the odd person with a bad lens, but in general the quality of german stuff, including summarit seems great.
My understanding is that the Nadir was the 80s when some Canadian cams were not great, but I may be naive.
Re: A thinner sensor stack may be possible after all!
Lee Saxon wrote: sebboh wrote:
cosina is building all of zeiss\'s lenses except the zm 15/2.8 (made in germany) and the AF ones that are made by sony and fuji.
all the zm (except 85/2 and 15/2.8), ZE, and ZF are made by cosina in japan.
even worse, most of the old zeiss lenses were made by other companies in japan (contax) or singapore (rollei).
\"even worse\" ? I think Cosina is doing a spectacular job. The stuff they make themselves under the Voigtlander brand is well made too.
Also, I thought the cine lenses (not the rehoused ZF\'s, the real ones) were still made in Germany? And I thought the Japan thing started with the C/Y lenses and the ZF/ZE/etc line growing out of that once it ended; I had no idea the classic Hasselblad / Rollei stuff wasn\'t even German. Not that it really matters though, all you get for the increasingly absurd German price premium, at least these days, is awful quality control, if the stories about Leica are true.
I like Cosina too, though CV has had huge copy variations with lenses like the 21/4. And there is the Zeiss wobble, which was not handled well. As to issues with Leica quality control in germany, where are you getting that?
I\'m not hearing it about current M lenses, and I\'ve been watching boards filled with Leica haters ready to pounce
Of course you get the odd person with a bad lens, but in general the quality of german stuff, including summarit seems great.
My understanding is that the Nadir was the 80s when some Canadian cams were not great
Re: A thinner sensor stack may be possible after all!
Lee Saxon wrote: sebboh wrote:
cosina is building all of zeiss\'s lenses except the zm 15/2.8 (made in germany) and the AF ones that are made by sony and fuji.
all the zm (except 85/2 and 15/2.8), ZE, and ZF are made by cosina in japan.
even worse, most of the old zeiss lenses were made by other companies in japan (contax) or singapore (rollei).
\"even worse\" ? I think Cosina is doing a spectacular job. The stuff they make themselves under the Voigtlander brand is well made too.
Also, I thought the cine lenses (not the rehoused ZF\'s, the real ones) were still made in Germany? And I thought the Japan thing started with the C/Y lenses and the ZF/ZE/etc line growing out of that once it ended; I had no idea the classic Hasselblad / Rollei stuff wasn\'t even German. Not that it really matters though, all you get for the increasingly absurd German price premium, at least these days, is awful quality control, if the stories about Leica are true.
I like Cosina too, though CV has had huge copy variations with lenses like the 21/4. As to issues with Leica quality control in germany, where are you getting that?
I\'m not hearing it about current M lenses, and I\'ve been watching boards filled with Leica haters ready to pounce
Of course you get the odd person with a bad lens, but in general the quality of german stuff, including summarit seems great.
My understanding is that the Nadir was the 80s when some Canadian cams were not great
Feb 08, 2015 at 11:26 PM
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