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@Ron: those are killer!!

naturephoto1 wrote:
uhoh7 wrote:
shujert wrote:
Shooting at high ISO is going to be the biggest adjustment and pain point for me, I think. I\'m coming from a Df that can shoot ISO12,800 with relative ease. Do you guys have any tips for getting the cleanest possible shot at high ISO with the M9? A trick I\'ve used in the past is to lower the exposure compensation by a stop or so and just fix in post, but Thorsten Overgaard recommends against this with the M9.

Here\'s a shot from this evening at ISO2000. Even using LR\'s excellent NR tool, the noise is quite pronounced and something I\'ll have to become accustomed to.



Hi Shu,

is that WO on the 35/1.2? Was it that light?

This was taken in some seriously dim conditions with the CV 50/1.1 WO

Mike Hughes by unoh7, 50 1.1 WO

Basically: reduce exposure comp to -2/3 this is what I always use. Limit ISO to 800 max. 500 is usually fine with a superspeed lens. Then push as need in LR and apply NR. That\'s not the only way, but it\'s a widely used method.

Does my shot look noisy to you guys?

My copy of the 50/1.1 is dead on calibration
Another way underrated CV lens.

Anyway Brian at Leicaplace gets clean stuff with M9 at 2k+ iso with this same lens, but I\'m not sure how. He\'s very friendly, so don\'t hesitate to join there and ask.

The beauty of the 35/1.2 is you have some DOF WO.
Here is CV 35/1.2 but it was not really this bright:

L1000471 by unoh7, on Flickr

obviously any light you can find will be good. Is it greenish?

one more with bokeh

L1000446 by unoh7, on Flickr

At first I figured I\'d use A7 for low light stuff. Now, believe it or not, I prefer M9! Talk about a convert

@Rich et al re nature shooting: many reasons I far prefer M9 to a7 or a7r for nature, but one of the biggest is so so simple. Infinity stop. You don\'t have to find infinity. It\'s like being given an extra week of life

@ Charles great to see you posting here on any subject Tell Marisa: I hated RF first month of hard use, then I began the slow evolution to insufferable fanboy.


Charlie,

You do not or hardly use a tripod. I am coming from an entirely different place using tripods extensively for composition, bracketing consistency, lack of motion of the camera, etc This was for using 4\" X 5\" cameras, Medium Format cameras, and Leica R cameras and lenses shooting as slow transparency film as possible for the conditions. It would not be uncommon for me to shoot longer than 1 to 10 second exposures as an example with 4\" x 5\" cameras to maintain DOF with Grad filters, etc. I used and still use much the same techniques for my Medium Format and Leica R cameras as well as my digital shooting as with the A7r and other cameras to this day.

Rich



Nex Shooter by unoh7,50 cron

Guilty as charged That\'s not me but it could be.

I actually did take a very hard look at modern LF rigs, and I think that is a cool way to go with a history which reaches to the dawn of photography. It may be that someday I use tripods more, but right now I\'m using them less as even my long glass is giving decent results with high enough shutters. In addition I don\'t care for the LE effect which is ubiquitous in landscape photography today, so I don\'t need a tripod for that trick.

We all have our methods and they may or may not change over time. But I have to think I would enjoy a proper infinity stop just as much on a tripod as handheld. To be fair one M adapter, the Hawks CF latest, has the capability to set a precise stop, and it\'s a mystery why this is not a feature of many more.

You love that long R glass, and I don\'t blame you! No question A7r smokes the M9 at 180mm.....well maybe I need a visio

Before M9 I shot quite a bit at 180, 300 and 400, and I like very much the frames one can make in the wild with so concise a view. I think within 5 years we will have a serious field camera which will bridge the strengths of the M9 and A7r. For now I\'m fully occupied with learning all the tricks of framing and focus on M9 at various lengths and speeds. My new 5K riMac has really bought the enterprise to a whole new level. Imagine being able to snap your fingers and see a crystal sharp 13x20 of any image on your hard drive. If the color gamut is inferior to a great print, it\'s totally gorgeous anyway, and there\'s no compromise in sharpness at all. I believe it\'s a major milestone in digital photography.

You should see a user report from me within a few days at this place:

Huffy riMac by unoh7, on Flickr



Nov 15, 2014 at 02:48 PM
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@Ron: those are killer!!

naturephoto1 wrote:
uhoh7 wrote:
shujert wrote:
Shooting at high ISO is going to be the biggest adjustment and pain point for me, I think. I\'m coming from a Df that can shoot ISO12,800 with relative ease. Do you guys have any tips for getting the cleanest possible shot at high ISO with the M9? A trick I\'ve used in the past is to lower the exposure compensation by a stop or so and just fix in post, but Thorsten Overgaard recommends against this with the M9.

Here\'s a shot from this evening at ISO2000. Even using LR\'s excellent NR tool, the noise is quite pronounced and something I\'ll have to become accustomed to.



Hi Shu,

is that WO on the 35/1.2? Was it that light?

This was taken in some seriously dim conditions with the CV 50/1.1 WO

Mike Hughes by unoh7, 50 1.1 WO

Basically: reduce exposure comp to -2/3 this is what I always use. Limit ISO to 800 max. 500 is usually fine with a superspeed lens. Then push as need in LR and apply NR. That\'s not the only way, but it\'s a widely used method.

Does my shot look noisy to you guys?

My copy of the 50/1.1 is dead on calibration
Another way underrated CV lens.

Anyway Brian at Leicaplace gets clean stuff with M9 at 2k+ iso with this same lens, but I\'m not sure how. He\'s very friendly, so don\'t hesitate to join there and ask.

The beauty of the 35/1.2 is you have some DOF WO.
Here is CV 35/1.2 but it was not really this bright:

L1000471 by unoh7, on Flickr

obviously any light you can find will be good. Is it greenish?

one more with bokeh

L1000446 by unoh7, on Flickr

At first I figured I\'d use A7 for low light stuff. Now, believe it or not, I prefer M9! Talk about a convert

@Rich et al re nature shooting: many reasons I far prefer M9 to a7 or a7r for nature, but one of the biggest is so so simple. Infinity stop. You don\'t have to find infinity. It\'s like being given an extra week of life

@ Charles great to see you posting here on any subject Tell Marisa: I hated RF first month of hard use, then I began the slow evolution to insufferable fanboy.


Charlie,

You do not or hardly use a tripod. I am coming from an entirely different place using tripods extensively for composition, bracketing consistency, lack of motion of the camera, etc This was for using 4\" X 5\" cameras, Medium Format cameras, and Leica R cameras and lenses shooting as slow transparency film as possible for the conditions. It would not be uncommon for me to shoot longer than 1 to 10 second exposures as an example with 4\" x 5\" cameras to maintain DOF with Grad filters, etc. I used and still use much the same techniques for my Medium Format and Leica R cameras as well as my digital shooting as with the A7r and other cameras to this day.

Rich



Nex Shooter by unoh7,50 cron

Guilty as charged That\'s not me but it could be.

I actually did take a very hard look at modern LF rigs, and I think that is a cool way to go with a history which reaches to the dawn of photography. It may be that someday I use tripods more, but right now I\'m using them less as even my long glass is giving decent results with high enough shutters. In addition I don\'t care for the LE effect which is ubiquitous in landscape photography today (that may change someday), so I don\'t need a tripod for that trick.

We all have our methods and they may or may not change over time. But I have to think I would enjoy a proper infinity stop just as much on a tripod as handheld. To be fair one M adapter, the Hawks CF latest, has the capability to set a precise stop, and it\'s a mystery why this is not a feature of many more.

You love that long R glass, and I don\'t blame you! No question A7r smokes the M9 at 180mm.....well maybe I need a visio

Before M9 I shot quite a bit at 180, 300 and 400, and I like very much the frames one can make in the wild with so concise a view. I think within 5 years we will have a serious field camera which will bridge the strengths of the M9 and A7r. For now I\'m fully occupied with learning all the tricks of framing and focus on M9 at various lengths and speeds. My new 5K riMac has really bought the enterprise to a whole new level. Imagine being able to snap your fingers and see a crystal sharp 13x20 of any image on your hard drive. If the color gamut is inferior to a great print, it\'s totally gorgeous anyway, and there\'s no compromise in sharpness at all. I believe it\'s a major milestone in digital photography.

You should see a user report from me within a few days at this place:

Huffy riMac by unoh7, on Flickr



Nov 15, 2014 at 02:46 PM
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naturephoto1 wrote:
uhoh7 wrote:
shujert wrote:
Shooting at high ISO is going to be the biggest adjustment and pain point for me, I think. I\'m coming from a Df that can shoot ISO12,800 with relative ease. Do you guys have any tips for getting the cleanest possible shot at high ISO with the M9? A trick I\'ve used in the past is to lower the exposure compensation by a stop or so and just fix in post, but Thorsten Overgaard recommends against this with the M9.

Here\'s a shot from this evening at ISO2000. Even using LR\'s excellent NR tool, the noise is quite pronounced and something I\'ll have to become accustomed to.



Hi Shu,

is that WO on the 35/1.2? Was it that light?

This was taken in some seriously dim conditions with the CV 50/1.1 WO

Mike Hughes by unoh7, 50 1.1 WO

Basically: reduce exposure comp to -2/3 this is what I always use. Limit ISO to 800 max. 500 is usually fine with a superspeed lens. Then push as need in LR and apply NR. That\'s not the only way, but it\'s a widely used method.

Does my shot look noisy to you guys?

My copy of the 50/1.1 is dead on calibration
Another way underrated CV lens.

Anyway Brian at Leicaplace gets clean stuff with M9 at 2k+ iso with this same lens, but I\'m not sure how. He\'s very friendly, so don\'t hesitate to join there and ask.

The beauty of the 35/1.2 is you have some DOF WO.
Here is CV 35/1.2 but it was not really this bright:

L1000471 by unoh7, on Flickr

obviously any light you can find will be good. Is it greenish?

one more with bokeh

L1000446 by unoh7, on Flickr

At first I figured I\'d use A7 for low light stuff. Now, believe it or not, I prefer M9! Talk about a convert

@Rich et al re nature shooting: many reasons I far prefer M9 to a7 or a7r for nature, but one of the biggest is so so simple. Infinity stop. You don\'t have to find infinity. It\'s like being given an extra week of life

@ Charles great to see you posting here on any subject Tell Marisa: I hated RF first month of hard use, then I began the slow evolution to insufferable fanboy.


Charlie,

You do not or hardly use a tripod. I am coming from an entirely different place using tripods extensively for composition, bracketing consistency, lack of motion of the camera, etc This was for using 4\" X 5\" cameras, Medium Format cameras, and Leica R cameras and lenses shooting as slow transparency film as possible for the conditions. It would not be uncommon for me to shoot longer than 1 to 10 second exposures as an example with 4\" x 5\" cameras to maintain DOF with Grad filters, etc. I used and still use much the same techniques for my Medium Format and Leica R cameras as well as my digital shooting as with the A7r and other cameras to this day.

Rich



Nex Shooter by unoh7,50 cron

Guilty as charged That\'s not me but it could be.

I actually did take a very hard look at modern LF rigs, and I think that is a cool way to go with a history which reaches to the dawn of photography. It may be that someday I use tripods more, but right now I\'m using them less as even my long glass is giving decent results with high enough shutters. In addition I don\'t care for the LE effect which is ubiquitous in landscape photography today (that may change someday), so I don\'t need a tripod for that trick.

We all have our methods and they may or may not change over time. But I have to think I would enjoy a proper infinity stop just as much on a tripod as handheld. To be fair one M adapter, the Hawks CF latest, has the capability to set a precise stop, and it\'s a mystery why this is not a feature of many more.

You love that long R glass, and I don\'t blame you! No question A7r smokes the M9 at 180mm.....well maybe I need a visio

Before M9 I shot quite a bit at 180, 300 and 400, and I like very much the frames one can make in the wild with so concise a view. I think within 5 years we will have a serious field camera which will bridge the strengths of the M9 and A7r. For now I\'m fully occupied with learning all the tricks of framing and focus on M9 at various lengths and speeds. My new 5K riMac has really bought the enterprise to a whole new level. Imagine being able to snap your fingers and see a crystal sharp 13x20 of any image on your hard drive. If the color gamut is inferior to a great print, it\'s totally gorgeous anyway, and there\'s no compromise in sharpness at all. I believe it\'s a major milestone in digital photography.

You should see a user report from me within a few days at this place:

Huffy riMac by unoh7, on Flickr



Nov 15, 2014 at 02:42 PM
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naturephoto1 wrote:
uhoh7 wrote:
shujert wrote:
Shooting at high ISO is going to be the biggest adjustment and pain point for me, I think. I\'m coming from a Df that can shoot ISO12,800 with relative ease. Do you guys have any tips for getting the cleanest possible shot at high ISO with the M9? A trick I\'ve used in the past is to lower the exposure compensation by a stop or so and just fix in post, but Thorsten Overgaard recommends against this with the M9.

Here\'s a shot from this evening at ISO2000. Even using LR\'s excellent NR tool, the noise is quite pronounced and something I\'ll have to become accustomed to.



Hi Shu,

is that WO on the 35/1.2? Was it that light?

This was taken in some seriously dim conditions with the CV 50/1.1 WO

Mike Hughes by unoh7, 50 1.1 WO

Basically: reduce exposure comp to -2/3 this is what I always use. Limit ISO to 800 max. 500 is usually fine with a superspeed lens. Then push as need in LR and apply NR. That\'s not the only way, but it\'s a widely used method.

Does my shot look noisy to you guys?

My copy of the 50/1.1 is dead on calibration
Another way underrated CV lens.

Anyway Brian at Leicaplace gets clean stuff with M9 at 2k+ iso with this same lens, but I\'m not sure how. He\'s very friendly, so don\'t hesitate to join there and ask.

The beauty of the 35/1.2 is you have some DOF WO.
Here is CV 35/1.2 but it was not really this bright:

L1000471 by unoh7, on Flickr

obviously any light you can find will be good. Is it greenish?

one more with bokeh

L1000446 by unoh7, on Flickr

At first I figured I\'d use A7 for low light stuff. Now, believe it or not, I prefer M9! Talk about a convert

@Rich et al re nature shooting: many reasons I far prefer M9 to a7 or a7r for nature, but one of the biggest is so so simple. Infinity stop. You don\'t have to find infinity. It\'s like being given an extra week of life

@ Charles great to see you posting here on any subject Tell Marisa: I hated RF first month of hard use, then I began the slow evolution to insufferable fanboy.


Charlie,

You do not or hardly use a tripod. I am coming from an entirely different place using tripods extensively for composition, bracketing consistency, lack of motion of the camera, etc This was for using 4\" X 5\" cameras, Medium Format cameras, and Leica R cameras and lenses shooting as slow transparency film as possible for the conditions. It would not be uncommon for me to shoot longer than 1 to 10 second exposures as an example with 4\" x 5\" cameras to maintain DOF with Grad filters, etc. I used and still use much the same techniques for my Medium Format and Leica R cameras as well as my digital shooting as with the A7r and other cameras to this day.

Rich



Nex Shooter by unoh7,50 cron

Guilty as charged That\'s not me but it could be.

I actually did take a very hard look at modern LF rigs, and I think that is a cool way to go with a history which reaches to the dawn of photography. It may be that someday I use tripods more, but right now I\'m using them less as even my long glass is giving decent results with high enough shutters. In addition I don\'t care for the LE effect which is ubiquitous in landscape photography today (that may change someday), so I don\'t need a tripod for that trick.

We all have our methods and they may or may not change over time. But I have to think I would enjoy a proper infinity stop just as much on a tripod as handheld. To be fair one M adapter, the Hawks CF latest, has the capability to set a precise stop, and it\'s a mystery why this is not a feature of many more.

You love that long R glass, and I don\'t blame you! No question A7r smokes the M9 at 180mm.....well maybe I need a visio

Before M9 I shot quite a bit at 180, 300 and 400, and I like very much the frames one can make in the wild with so concise a view. I think within 5 years we will have a serious field camera which will bridge the strengths of the M9 and A7r. For now I\'m fully occupied with learning all the tricks of framing and focus on M9 at various lengths and speeds. My new 5K riMac has really bought the enterprise to a whole new level. Imagine being able to snap your fingers and see a crystal sharp 13x20 of any image on your hard drive. If the color gamut is inferior to a great print, it\'s totally gorgeous anyway, and there\'s no compromise in sharpness at all. I believe it\'s a major milestone in digital photography.

You should see a user report from me within a few days at this place:

L1024547 by unoh7, on Flickr



Nov 15, 2014 at 02:40 PM
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naturephoto1 wrote:
uhoh7 wrote:
shujert wrote:
Shooting at high ISO is going to be the biggest adjustment and pain point for me, I think. I\'m coming from a Df that can shoot ISO12,800 with relative ease. Do you guys have any tips for getting the cleanest possible shot at high ISO with the M9? A trick I\'ve used in the past is to lower the exposure compensation by a stop or so and just fix in post, but Thorsten Overgaard recommends against this with the M9.

Here\'s a shot from this evening at ISO2000. Even using LR\'s excellent NR tool, the noise is quite pronounced and something I\'ll have to become accustomed to.



Hi Shu,

is that WO on the 35/1.2? Was it that light?

This was taken in some seriously dim conditions with the CV 50/1.1 WO

Mike Hughes by unoh7, 50 1.1 WO

Basically: reduce exposure comp to -2/3 this is what I always use. Limit ISO to 800 max. 500 is usually fine with a superspeed lens. Then push as need in LR and apply NR. That\'s not the only way, but it\'s a widely used method.

Does my shot look noisy to you guys?

My copy of the 50/1.1 is dead on calibration
Another way underrated CV lens.

Anyway Brian at Leicaplace gets clean stuff with M9 at 2k+ iso with this same lens, but I\'m not sure how. He\'s very friendly, so don\'t hesitate to join there and ask.

The beauty of the 35/1.2 is you have some DOF WO.
Here is CV 35/1.2 but it was not really this bright:

L1000471 by unoh7, on Flickr

obviously any light you can find will be good. Is it greenish?

one more with bokeh

L1000446 by unoh7, on Flickr

At first I figured I\'d use A7 for low light stuff. Now, believe it or not, I prefer M9! Talk about a convert

@Rich et al re nature shooting: many reasons I far prefer M9 to a7 or a7r for nature, but one of the biggest is so so simple. Infinity stop. You don\'t have to find infinity. It\'s like being given an extra week of life

@ Charles great to see you posting here on any subject Tell Marisa: I hated RF first month of hard use, then I began the slow evolution to insufferable fanboy.


Charlie,

You do not or hardly use a tripod. I am coming from an entirely different place using tripods extensively for composition, bracketing consistency, lack of motion of the camera, etc This was for using 4\" X 5\" cameras, Medium Format cameras, and Leica R cameras and lenses shooting as slow transparency film as possible for the conditions. It would not be uncommon for me to shoot longer than 1 to 10 second exposures as an example with 4\" x 5\" cameras to maintain DOF with Grad filters, etc. I used and still use much the same techniques for my Medium Format and Leica R cameras as well as my digital shooting as with the A7r and other cameras to this day.

Rich



Nex Shooter by unoh7,50 cron

Guilty as charged That\'s not me but it could be.

I actually did take a very hard look at modern LF rigs, and I think that is a cool way to go with a history which reaches to the dawn of photography. It may be that someday I use tripods more, but right now I\'m using them less as even my long glass is giving decent results with high enough shutters. In addition I don\'t care for the LE effect which is ubiquitous in landscape photography today (that may change someday), so I don\'t need a tripod for that trick.

We all have our methods and they may or may not change over time. But I have to think I would enjoy a proper infinity stop just as much on a tripod as handheld. To be fair one M adapter, the Hawks CF latest, has the capability to set a precise stop, and it\'s a mystery why this is not a feature of many more.

You love that long R glass, and I don\'t blame you! No question A7r smokes the M9 at 180mm.....well maybe I need a visio

Before M9 I shot quite a bit at 180, 300 and 400, and I like very much the frames one can make in the wild with so concise a view. I think within 5 years we will have a serious field camera which will bridge the strengths of the M9 and A7r. For now I\'m fully occupied with learning all the tricks of framing and focus on M9 at various lengths and speeds. My new 5K riMac has really bought the enterprise to a whole new level for me. Imagine being able to snap your fingers and see a crystal sharp 13x20 of any image on your hard drive. If the color gamut is inferior to a great print, it\'s totally gorgeous anyway, and there\'s no compromise in sharpness at all. I believe it\'s a major milestone in digital photography.

You should see a user report from me within a few days at this place:

L1024547 by unoh7, on Flickr



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