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kezeka wrote:
retrofocus wrote:
kezeka wrote:
retrofocus wrote:
gdanmitchell wrote:
Scott Stoness wrote:
You are right to be concerned. Since buying my a7r, I have spent about $4000 in native lens for the beast, mutliple adapters, ..... which adds up to way more than the $8-9k rumour. And although I am happy with the body dynamic range and mpx, I don\'t like - using adapters, lousy battery performance, lousy electronic rangefinder view in bright light, the colors of sony vs canon, vibration issues near 1/100 shutter, the lack of a small uwa that works with it, .... . I will sell the a7r unless there is a uwa solution soon, when/if canon delivers this body. The a7r does not work well for me for landscape and hiking.I assume that a7r v2 might fix these problems but its obvious that sony strategy is to throw lots of stuff at the wall and see what sticks.


Compromises are inherent in any camera system choice, unfortunately, and there is not nor will there likely every be a perfect camera.


The only bit annoying imperfection of the A7R to me is that the sensor glass thickness limits the use of prime rangefinder wide angle lenses. Everything else you find workarounds or get used to.


That is exactly why I don\'t purchase anything made by Sony anymore. I don\'t have the time nor patience to find workarounds or suck it up and get used to something anymore. The only good thing about the a7 series is that it is a small flange distance full frame camera. You can put tons of lenses on it but none of them (except for like 3 first party lenses) work stupendously. The whole thing is a compromise. They should have done it right the first time instead of releasing a beta version to sell for public testing.


Did you ever use the A7 series? It doesn\'t sound like it. If you had used it, you would know that it works extremely well with most lenses out there, especially with older MF lenses. Some wide angle rangefinder lenses are the exemption of the rule. It\'s a great camera if you simply use it and take photos.


I bought one and tried it for a week before sending it back because it kept crashing and requiring hard reboots every few hours. The button layout was miserable. The shutter lag was worse than my iPhone. And as much as people want to believe that they work well well all sorts of rangefinder glass, hopes and dreams won\'t fix the problems with the angles of incidence on rangefinder glass 35mm and wider without a tele centric design. They work GREAT with big heavy telecentric lenses, like most SLR lenses but the a7 series does not work well with anywhere close to all rangefinder glass. Maybe it\'s because of the thick sensor glass, maybe it is the small aperture of the E mount, it\'s probably both but it shows that sony is running into problems with designing small WA lenses for it when the new 16-35 FE is about the same size as the canon 16-35 IS, and the new FE 35/1.4 is quite large and heavy too. On top of all of that, the very real sensor shaking issues should have been worked out in R&D.

Sorry, I just don\'t buy into the idea that sony deserves a pat on the back until they resolve the button layout, and find a way to actually build a responsive camera.


At least when canon f***ed up with the 1D3 they eventually owned up to it and tried to fix it after countless hours of complaining by customers. Sony, as a company, has never shown even that little compassion towards its customers. There is a reason they are 12 billion down over the last 8 years.


I am also not too excited that the new Sony FE lenses come close in size to regular DSLR lenses. Likely Sony/Zeiss are pushing out existing DSLR lens designs with slight modifications to fit the E-mount because it is faster than designing small lenses for the E-mount from scratch. To me personally it doesn\'t matter since I am mostly using my A7R either with Canon EF lenses anyway or more often so with MF lenses. The latter are indeed a lot smaller and as powerful. Rangefinder lenses above 35 mm work fine with the A7 series - my Leica Summicron-M 2/50 is the sharpest 50 mm lens I have. And the whole thing (camera, lens, small adapter ring) is easily portable and light. I am in the majority taking photos below 100 mm focal length, so far I did not experience the vibration issues. Sorry to hear that you suffered from malfunctions of the camera after you received it - I had none of those issues described. I personally love the button layout with exemption of the position of the C2 button (consider it a minor thing to get used to). Everything else I can control with my right hand and still looking through the EVF. Using my DSLR now, feels cumbersome in comparison.



Sep 19, 2014 at 04:52 PM





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