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artd wrote:
gdanmitchell wrote:
artd wrote:
gdanmitchell wrote:
Despite the compelling and wonderful features of the Sony A7r and the Nikon D800/D810 bodies (either as replacements for Canon systems or to augment Canon lenses), the extent to which moving to them in the interim between their introduction and Canon\'s eventual upgrade is a good value proposition will vary depending upon a lot of factors: how large one thinks the improvement in IQ is, how significant that improvement is relative to the work that one actually produces, to what extent the minuses outweigh the pluses, one\'s patience, and how deep the photographer\'s pockets are. For some, the answer is \"move now.\" For others, the answer is \"patience.\"
But the point is that \"augmenting\" a Canon system with an A7r is conceptually different than \"moving\" to another system. Photographers like Fred or myself have chosen to augment our existing Canon systems, not move from them. Tempted to change systems altogether? In such an instance I think the \"patience\" argument is sensible. But tempted to augment your existing system with an A7r? If you have the money, why not?...
I can understand photographers who come to your conclusion — as I wrote, several that I know and respect and shoot with also decided to go that route.
For me, believing that Canon has only \"fallen behind\" temporarily (it has been only 11 months since the A7r was \"announced in October 2013), that they will almost certainly equal or exceed the quality of the Sony/Nikon option within what is (in the big picture) are relatively short time, and that I produce excellent image quality in the interim with what I have... from my perspective the argument to buy the Sony body — as good as it obviously is in a number of ways — has not been quite compelling enough for me.
YMMV,
Dan
But what I think you misunderstand is I don\'t agree with the way you conflated augmenting a system with changing a system. To try a different context, why do you own a Fuji mirrorless camera in addition to your Canon DSLR? Wouldn\'t it be better to wait for Canon to come up with a better mirrorless system?
Although you may have read something into what I wrote, I did not conflate anything. I\'m just explaining my perspective on the issue as a person who has a fine Canon DSLR body and a system of Canon lenses, and I have repeatedly acknowledged (and even linked to) folks I respect who came to a different conclusion.
The Fujifilm acquisition was a separate issue for me, though it may have an effect on my lower level of interest in acquiring the mirrorless Sony. It was also a decision made before there was a Sony A7r. My goal with the Fujifilm system was to acquire a small and light system that was separate from my DSLR system, mostly for travel and street photography, where I want to minimize the size and weight of my entire kit. (It fits in a very small padded section of a small messenger bag, perhaps 8-9\" tall/wide, and less than 6\" thick, and it includes the body and four lenses. I\'d guess that the whole thing is smaller than the 5DII plus the 24-70 f/2.8.) Of course, already having that system, the appeal of the Sony in terms of its small size and weight is reduced, since the Fujifilm system already more than satisfied that need.
You bring up the \"waiting\" point regarding the Fujifilm system. This is a pretty different situation, and I\'m a bit surprised you don\'t see that. Once again:
Regarding the Canon DSLR: I have a fine DSLR system that is Canon based. I believe that Canon will produce an updated body for that system before long. (Perhaps not much more than one year after the A7r became available for purchase. For me, the advantages of the Sony system during that time are not compelling — I can already produce very large and very fine prints with the body I have, and while the improvements from 36MP are real for my work, they are incremental and not critical. I\'m content to wait. Though I\'d be happy to not wait too long! ;-)
Regarding the Fujifilm X-trans camera system: I had nothing that accomplished what the X-trans system does — provides a high quality camera and lens system in a very small package for travel and street photography and similar. I wanted it at a specific time for a specific purpose (by a date over a year ago), so I looked around at options, of which there were some very interesting ones from a variety of manufacturers, and finally settled on the Fujifilm system. And, by the way, even if the Sony A7r had been available at that time, it would not have met my specific needs, since it would only have accomplished a downsizing of the body from DSLR proportions, but if I had used my existing Canon lenses my overall kit would still have been much larger than the Fujifilm kit — too big for the use I had in mind.
Again (and again and again...), the Sony is a fine and compelling camera, but it is not a compelling purchase for me at this time.
YMMV,
Dan
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