artd wrote: gdanmitchell wrote:
Despite the compelling and wonderful features of the Sony A7r and the Nikon D800/D810 bodies (either as replacements for Canon systems or to augment Canon lenses), the extent to which moving to them in the interim between their introduction and Canon\'s eventual upgrade is a good value proposition will vary depending upon a lot of factors: how large one thinks the improvement in IQ is, how significant that improvement is relative to the work that one actually produces, to what extent the minuses outweigh the pluses, one\'s patience, and how deep the photographer\'s pockets are. For some, the answer is \"move now.\" For others, the answer is \"patience.\"
But the point is that \"augmenting\" a Canon system with an A7r is conceptually different than \"moving\" to another system. Photographers like Fred or myself have chosen to augment our existing Canon systems, not move from them. Tempted to change systems altogether? In such an instance I think the \"patience\" argument is sensible. But tempted to augment your existing system with an A7r? If you have the money, why not?...
I can understand photographers who come to your conclusion — as I wrote, several that I know and respect and shoot with also decided to go that route.
For me, believing that Canon has only \"fallen behind\" temporarily (it has been only 11 months since the A7r was \"announced in October 2013 and perhaps 9 months since it was available for US purchase in December), that they will almost certainly equal or exceed the quality of the Sony/Nikon option within what is (in the big picture) are relatively short time, and that I produce excellent image quality in the interim with what I have... from my perspective the argument to buy the Sony A7r body — as good as it obviously is in a number of ways — has not been quite compelling enough for me.
artd wrote: gdanmitchell wrote:
Despite the compelling and wonderful features of the Sony A7r and the Nikon D800/D810 bodies (either as replacements for Canon systems or to augment Canon lenses), the extent to which moving to them in the interim between their introduction and Canon\'s eventual upgrade is a good value proposition will vary depending upon a lot of factors: how large one thinks the improvement in IQ is, how significant that improvement is relative to the work that one actually produces, to what extent the minuses outweigh the pluses, one\'s patience, and how deep the photographer\'s pockets are. For some, the answer is \"move now.\" For others, the answer is \"patience.\"
But the point is that \"augmenting\" a Canon system with an A7r is conceptually different than \"moving\" to another system. Photographers like Fred or myself have chosen to augment our existing Canon systems, not move from them. Tempted to change systems altogether? In such an instance I think the \"patience\" argument is sensible. But tempted to augment your existing system with an A7r? If you have the money, why not?...
I can understand photographers who come to your conclusion — as I wrote, several that I know and respect and shoot with also decided to go that route.
For me, believing that Canon has only \"fallen behind\" temporarily (it has been only 11 months since the A7r was \"announced in October 2013 and perhaps 9 months since it was available for US purchase in December), that they will almost certainly equal or exceed the quality of the Sony/Nikon option within what is (in the big picture) are relatively short time, and that I produce excellent image quality in the interim with what I have... from my perspective the argument to buy the Sony body — as good as it obviously is in a number of ways — has not been quite compelling enough for me.
artd wrote: gdanmitchell wrote:
Despite the compelling and wonderful features of the Sony A7r and the Nikon D800/D810 bodies (either as replacements for Canon systems or to augment Canon lenses), the extent to which moving to them in the interim between their introduction and Canon\'s eventual upgrade is a good value proposition will vary depending upon a lot of factors: how large one thinks the improvement in IQ is, how significant that improvement is relative to the work that one actually produces, to what extent the minuses outweigh the pluses, one\'s patience, and how deep the photographer\'s pockets are. For some, the answer is \"move now.\" For others, the answer is \"patience.\"
But the point is that \"augmenting\" a Canon system with an A7r is conceptually different than \"moving\" to another system. Photographers like Fred or myself have chosen to augment our existing Canon systems, not move from them. Tempted to change systems altogether? In such an instance I think the \"patience\" argument is sensible. But tempted to augment your existing system with an A7r? If you have the money, why not?...
I can understand photographers who come to your conclusion — as I wrote, several that I know and respect and shoot with also decided to go that route.
For me, believing that Canon has only \"fallen behind\" temporarily (it has been only 11 months since the A7r was \"announced in October 2013), that they will almost certainly equal or exceed the quality of the Sony/Nikon option within what is (in the big picture) are relatively short time, and that I produce excellent image quality in the interim with what I have... from my perspective the argument to buy the Sony body — as good as it obviously is in a number of ways — has not been quite compelling enough for me.
artd wrote: gdanmitchell wrote:
Despite the compelling and wonderful features of the Sony A7r and the Nikon D800/D810 bodies (either as replacements for Canon systems or to augment Canon lenses), the extent to which moving to them in the interim between their introduction and Canon\'s eventual upgrade is a good value proposition will vary depending upon a lot of factors: how large one thinks the improvement in IQ is, how significant that improvement is relative to the work that one actually produces, to what extent the minuses outweigh the pluses, one\'s patience, and how deep the photographer\'s pockets are. For some, the answer is \"move now.\" For others, the answer is \"patience.\"
But the point is that \"augmenting\" a Canon system with an A7r is conceptually different than \"moving\" to another system. Photographers like Fred or myself have chosen to augment our existing Canon systems, not move from them. Tempted to change systems altogether? In such an instance I think the \"patience\" argument is sensible. But tempted to augment your existing system with an A7r? If you have the money, why not?...
I can understand photographers who come to your conclusion — as I wrote, several that I know and respect and shoot with also decided to go that route.
For me, believing that Canon has only \"fallen behind\" temporarily (it has been only 11 months since the A7r was \"announced), that they will almost certainly equal or exceed the quality of the Sony/Nikon option within what is (in the big picture) are relatively short time, and that I produce excellent image quality in the interim with what I have... from my perspective the argument to buy the Sony body — as good as it obviously is in a number of ways — has not been quite compelling enough for me.
artd wrote: gdanmitchell wrote:
Despite the compelling and wonderful features of the Sony A7r and the Nikon D800/D810 bodies (either as replacements for Canon systems or to augment Canon lenses), the extent to which moving to them in the interim between their introduction and Canon\'s eventual upgrade is a good value proposition will vary depending upon a lot of factors: how large one thinks the improvement in IQ is, how significant that improvement is relative to the work that one actually produces, to what extent the minuses outweigh the pluses, one\'s patience, and how deep the photographer\'s pockets are. For some, the answer is \"move now.\" For others, the answer is \"patience.\"
But the point is that \"augmenting\" a Canon system with an A7r is conceptually different than \"moving\" to another system. Photographers like Fred or myself have chosen to augment our existing Canon systems, not move from them. Tempted to change systems altogether? In such an instance I think the \"patience\" argument is sensible. But tempted to augment your existing system with an A7r? If you have the money, why not?...
I can understand photographers who come to your conclusion — as I wrote, several that I know and respect and shoot with also decided to go that route.
For me, believing that Canon has only \"fallen behind\" temporarily (it has been only 11 months since the A7r was \"announced,\" that they will almost certainly equal or exceed the quality of the Sony/Nikon option within what is (in the big picture) are relatively short time, and that I produce excellent image quality in the interim with what I have... from my perspective the argument to buy the Sony body — as good as it obviously is in a number of ways — has not been quite compelling enough for me.
artd wrote: gdanmitchell wrote:
Despite the compelling and wonderful features of the Sony A7r and the Nikon D800/D810 bodies (either as replacements for Canon systems or to augment Canon lenses), the extent to which moving to them in the interim between their introduction and Canon\'s eventual upgrade is a good value proposition will vary depending upon a lot of factors: how large one thinks the improvement in IQ is, how significant that improvement is relative to the work that one actually produces, to what extent the minuses outweigh the pluses, one\'s patience, and how deep the photographer\'s pockets are. For some, the answer is \"move now.\" For others, the answer is \"patience.\"
But the point is that \"augmenting\" a Canon system with an A7r is conceptually different than \"moving\" to another system. Photographers like Fred or myself have chosen to augment our existing Canon systems, not move from them. Tempted to change systems altogether? In such an instance I think the \"patience\" argument is sensible. But tempted to augment your existing system with an A7r? If you have the money, why not?...
I can understand photographers who come to your conclusion — as I wrote, several that I know and respect and shoot with also decided to go that route.
For me, believing that Canon has only \"fallen behind\" temporarily, that they will almost certainly equal or exceed the quality of the Sony/Nikon option within what is (in the big picture) are relatively short time, and that I produce excellent image quality in the interim with what I have... from my perspective the argument to buy the Sony body — as good as it obviously is in a number of ways — has not been quite compelling enough for me.
YMMV,
Dan
Sep 18, 2014 at 06:52 PM
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