mitesh wrote: retrofocus wrote: sb in ak wrote:
Not to equate popularity with \"better\" but I do find it interesting that the 5D Mark III is currently #13 (and kit at #25) in DSLR popularity on Amazon, while the D800 sits at #37. This seems to contrast the launch in 2012. (On another note, the 6D is at #9 with the D610 at #39.) I wonder if Canon has been more aggressive with its pricing strategies over the holidays or what? I don\'t know what conclusions to draw from this, but it is a curiosity to me. For coming out swinging with a well-specced camera that\'s cheaper, the D800 doesn\'t appear to be killing the Canon in sales, at least not right now. Have that many people had the Koolaid?
Not surprising at all - I stated it recently in a different post. When the MkIII was announced, it was sitting on the shelves because most were unwilling to spend the $3500 for it. The D800(E) came with a much more aggressive price about $500 cheaper than the MkIII. So people vested in Nikon gear had a much easier time to jump on a really innovative camera, while you had to pay more for the MkIII which came with the same sensor as in the MkII and upgraded mostly the AF, and higher ISO capabilities. Looking into the Amazon charts 6 months after release of both of the cameras, you found exactly this trend - the D800(E) was a hot seller while the MkIII was fairly at the bottom.
Currently people interested in the D800(E) camera series already have it, but since the price of the MkIII is about $2700, then Canon users started upgrading. So now simply the MkIII sells better than the D800 because people can justify the upgrade better for this price than before. In addition Canon simply delays (willingly or unwillingly) a new 5D MkIV with a better sensor, so people have no choice to go with the MkIII (or the 6D).
This is exactly what I am seeing in my photo groups - first several Nikon shooters upgraded to the D800 and D800E, nobody at the time went for a MkIII. Now it is vice-versa - the Nikon users already are vested in the new FF camera, while people in the Canon camp more recently upgraded in larger numbers to the MkIII (to say numbers, five bought the MkIII, one bought the 6D recently). This trend was and is represented in the Amazon sales charts.
I\'m afraid your memory isn\'t serving you well, retro. Do a search for \"amazon sales rank\" in the 2012 Canon Gear forum. There are several threads- most of which you participated in- that discuss the sales ranks for D800 and 5D3 from release onwards. In about October 2012, six to seven months after release, the 5D3 (in various configurations) jumped the D800 (in various configurations) in Amazon\'s ranks. Since we can\'t retroactively check Amazon\'s ranks, these archived threads are all we have to go by. In none of them does the 5D3 rank, as you say, \"fairly at the bottom.\" It has generally stayed in a close range, and that doesn\'t suggest wild demand swings due to pricing.
We all know that you aren\'t happy with Canon\'s developments and pricing. Despite that, the sky is not falling.
2012 was already a turning point, I agree. But if you check as I said 6 months after the release of both cameras (which I stated above) - which was obviously NOT in 2012 - it was as I said above.
Dec 19, 2013 at 06:19 PM
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