sebboh wrote: most of the old wide angle lenses suck though.
And the ones that don\'t suck are a short list ... until you start getting into the newer behemoth designs.
I\'ve got the Oly\'s @ 18/3.5, 21/3.5, 24/2.8 and 28/3.5
Nikon AIS 20/2.8 and 28/2.8 AIS (Galen Rowell was a fan of the 20/3.5 AIS for landscape, iirc but I wanted the CRC of the 2.8 for mfd work)
C/Y 28/2.8
And I have the much larger 24L TS-E II ... guess which one I use the most.
Oly\'s, Nikon\'s and Zeiss approach their designs differently, so depending on if you are wanting a centrally (Zone A) sharper lens or a more even across the frame (Zones A, B, C) lens that can influence your choices. That and whether you prefer distortion or vignetting.
The wider you go, the tougher it gets and you simply have to choose your poison(s) at size, weight, cost, vignetting, distortion, zones of sharpness/contrast. The simple truth is that you can\'t have it all in one lens when it comes to WA/UWA\'s ... the vector forces involved are working against you the wider (and closer) you go.
With WA/UWA\'s you really need to know whether you are judging for landscape or street or interior applications as distortion may not matter for one, but be a deal breaker for the other. Same goes for vignetting or zones of sharpness @ A vs. A,B, C.
Imo, the C/Y 28.2.8 is the (widest) closest I have found to having it all in one lens @ size, weight, distortion, vignetting, $$$, etc. After 28m, the poison(s) tradeoffs start getting evermore challenging.
Note: I\'ve no experience with Leica R wides yet ... I understand the 19R is very good and have seen some excellent 28mm images too, but again, we have to choose our poison(s), i.e. $$$.
sebboh wrote: most of the old wide angle lenses suck though.
And the ones that don\'t suck are a short list ... until you start getting into the newer behemoth designs.
I\'ve got the Oly\'s @ 18/3.5, 21/3.5, 24/2.8 and 28/3.5
Nikon AIS 20/2.8 and 28/2.8 AIS (Galen Rowell was a fan of the 20/3.5 AIS for landscape, iirc but I wanted the CRC of the 2.8 for mfd work)
C/Y 28/2.8
And I have the much larger 24L TS-E II ... guess which one I use the most.
Oly\'s, Nikon\'s and Zeiss approach their designs differently, so depending on if you are wanting a centrally (Zone A) sharper lens or a more even across the frame (Zones A, B, C) lens that can influence your choices. That and whether you prefer distortion or vignetting.
The wider you go, the tougher it gets and you simply have to choose your poison(s) at size, weight, cost, vignetting, distortion, zones of sharpness/contrast. The simple truth is that you can\'t have it all in one lens when it comes to WA/UWA\'s ... the vector forces involved are working against you the wider (and closer) you go.
With WA/UWA\'s you really need to know whether you are judging for landscape or street or interior applications as distortion may not matter for one, but be a deal breaker for the other. Same goes for vignetting or zones of sharpness @ A vs. A,B, C.
Imo, the C/Y 28.2.8 is the (widest) closest I have found to having it all in one lens @ size, weight, distortion, vignetting, $$$, etc. After 28m, the poison(s) tradeoffs start getting evermore challenging.
sebboh wrote: most of the old wide angle lenses suck though.
And the ones that don\'t suck are a short list ... until you start getting into the newer behemoth designs.
I\'ve got the Oly\'s @ 18/3.5, 21/3.5, 24/2.8 and 28/3.5
Nikon AIS 20/2.8 and 28/2.8 AIS (Galen Rowell was a fan of the 20/3.5 AIS for landscape, iirc but I wanted the CRC of the 2.8 for mfd work)
C/Y 28/2.8
And I have the much larger 24L TS-E II ... guess which one I use the most.
Oly\'s, Nikon\'s and Zeiss approach their designs differently, so depending on if you are wanting a centrally (Zone A) sharper lens or a more even across the frame (Zones A, B, C) lens that can influence your choices. That and whether you prefer distortion or vignetting.
The wider you go, the tougher it gets and you simply have to choose your poison(s) at size, weight, cost, vignetting, distortion, zones of sharpness/contrast. The simple truth is that you can\'t have it all in one lens when it comes to WA/UWA\'s ... the vector forces involved are working against you the wider (and closer) you go.
Imo, the C/Y 28.2.8 is the (widest) closest I have found to having it all in one lens @ size, weight, distortion, vignetting, $$$, etc. After 28m, the poison(s) tradeoffs start getting evermore challenging.
Dec 11, 2013 at 12:31 PM
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