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 Re: Twilight at Glacier | |
JimFox wrote:
skibum5 wrote:
I like that first one, nice comp and colors!
I might pump up the whites higher so it looks a bit less HDR, they may not have been full mid-day white but considering the limited DR of displays usually setting white near max ends up more natural (not always but usually for a scene like this where you have a sky area that should be brighter than a ground area and where the DR was high and you still need good range and contrast in the ground area otherwise you get the pine needles feeling about as bright as the white clouds to the eye which would be a very thing in the real world).
Thanks, I am glad you like the first one! I have never used HDR in my life...  Manual layer masks is the only way I would increase DR. The D800 helps increase the DR and helps eliminate a lot of that too. But certainly scenes like this need the sky to adjusted separately from the ground layer since even the D800 has less DR than our eyes do. As for the whites, for me at least they don\'t appear like HDR. They have a bit of a blue cast which is normal as the whites will reflect the sky which was blue. I did leave it slightly blue to keep that cooler nighttime feel. On shots like these, it\'s super easy to make the whites totally white, but every time I try that, the whites end up looking unnatural to me. So I will usually leave a bit of a color cast.
Jim
It wasn\'t so much the color cast which is fine, it\'s true that things in nature are often not truly pure white, mostly various slightly off-whites, as the relative intensities that felt a bit odd. The clouds and something about the snow don\'t seem bright enough compared to the pine needles. Perhaps it is realistic but it seems surprising that the clouds would be darker than the snow on the mountain (in the second one) and that the snow and water would be so much darker than the rocks.
Still looks cool though even if not quite natural and the scene and comp and all are great.
(It must be nice having all that nice D800 DR at hand. Perhaps some day we in Canon land will have that too.... maybe 2035?  
But we do have access to the Samyang. That really has got to be the biggest bargain out there! I mean 14mm with no CA, sharp to the edges (on FF!), sharper than even most L lenses in the center. Tons of distortion, but that doesn\'t always matter quite as much for landscape and you can correct as much as needed (at loss of a bit of resolution granted). I don\'t shot UWA all that often so I could never really seem to justify a wide lens but then the $300 Bower 14mm came along and not is it justifiable, other than for extreme distortion, the performance is out of this world!)
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