Beni wrote:
That isn\'t what I said. However saying that Canon lenses are much better than Nikons or that their are serious issues with the D800 is hyperbole, defensive and shouldn\'t be necessary, especially when it isn\'t true.
BTW the Canon 50mm 1.4 is not a bad lens. It\'s got an oldish focus system but from f1.8 is very sharp, very accurate and has nice bokeh. I shoot about 50% of every wedding with it. The focus is faster than any of my L zooms were. It\'s 6 years old, has shot 100\'s of weddings and is a serious workhorse of a lens. This is from a wedding this week at f1.8...
So let\'s define a few things so we know what we\'re talking about:
hyperbole: obvious and intentional exaggeration; an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”
defensive: excessively concerned with guarding against the real or imagined threat of criticism, injury to one\'s ego, or exposure of one\'s shortcomings.
Canon DOES have better lenses in all but a small few categories. One of those missing ones was the 24-70, the new one of which appears to be about to take the crown. That\'s not \"bragging\" or hyperbole, but reality. It\'s a significant positive of the Canon camera system and a counter to those photographers who believe the sensor makes an image, when in fact it just captures it. Even my Nikon friends agree with this.
The D800 DOES have serious issues. \"Terrible\" screen (a pro photographer has left Nikon because of the same D4 screen). No mRAW leaving wedding/event photographers with huge files. Left focus point(s) errors (one reviewer has just changed his review from \"recommended\" to \"not recommended\" due to this issue).
These things are *real* and as real as the viewfinder issues that Canon has and the lack of low ISO shadow quality and auto ISO which was left alone before it was finished.
Is it OK to say Nikon is the at the top of their game but not OK to counter that? If I counter it does it make me defensive, or pointing out a different view, and the errors of your statement? Why is it OK for you to say what you want to say but then accuse others of defensiveness when expressing a different opinion, based on fact? I\'ve not made any of these things up.
Now going back to the definitions.
Hyperbole: What have I said that is exaggeration or extravagant? Possibly that pro wedding photographers won\'t go to the d600, but that was based on feedback from Nikon wedding friends and my view of the camera. However, you\'ve said Nikon are at the top of their game. Isn\'t that hyperbole but on the other side? It\'s certainly not provable.
Defensive: I don\'t believe you can be defensive if you are pointing out the praise points and errors on *both* sides.
What I want is fairness and reality on both sides. It\'s not unreasonable to say that Canon has the best wedding camera out at the moment, and Nikon had it last generation. It\'s also not unreasonable to say Nikon has the best studio/landscape camera now. It\'s also not unreasonable to say that pro wedding photographers will not flock to the D600 for a number of reasons, although that is clearly opinion. However, generally these things are not just my opinion, just like many share your view.
Right now it seems that it\'s OK to beat on Canon and praise Nikon, but the opposite somehow is unreasonable, as is pointing out the pros and cons on *both* sides. \"If you\'re not pro Nikon, you\'re defensive\" is not a position I can agree with. Sorry...
I continue to be impressed and disappointed by elements of both camera systems. And I will continue to point out the pros and cons of both.
My 50 1.4 focus broke after 3 weddings. You are very lucky... but we\'ll also have to disagree that it\'s a great lens. I didn\'t love 50mm until I tried the 1.2. That\'s my opinion. It\'s different to yours. It\'s my right to have and express that view
Sep 14, 2012 at 09:14 AM
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