briantho wrote:
I\'m curious, doesn\'t the launch of the Canon M mean that Nikon will have to rethink their mirrorless offerings? Won\'t Nikon be left far behind all competition as it currently stands?
Bifurcator wrote:
Weren\'t they far behind and way out in left field at launch time? I thought they were at least. I guess some people bought that camera but I can\'t imagine anyone doing so - on purpose I mean - at release, now, nor in the future. <shrug>
curious80 wrote:
Apparently Nikon 1 was financially very successful for Nikon and helped them carry through when their DSLR sales were affected by floods etc. It is a system unquestionably aimed at people going up from P&S cameras and looks like they marketed it well enough to get the attention of that segment. I suspect they might have other plans up their sleeves for the more advanced segment of mirror-less market.
aleksanderpolo wrote:
Surely you must be jesting? Or maybe I don\'t really know anything about what is working in the market. In that case, the EF-M will be a huge success and a FF mirrorless is doomed to fail...
Well, the camera shop I frequent for used lenses most only devotes cabinet space to systems that sell well. The Nikon 1 case is about 4 times the size as the Fuji - which is actually stuck in with Ricoh. It\'s about 1/2 size from what both Oly and Pana occupy together. I imagine the itty-bitty size appeals to women and the too-hip iPad crowd fairly well. I was just thinking that almost no one here (at FM and the likes) would be considering them with much seriousness. I mean, there\'s not even a sub-forum here for compacts after-all. (I\'m glad too! ).
In Japan from what I can gather, it would seem that both the µ4/3 systems as well as the Nikon 1 systems are outselling Sony, Fuji, and Ricoh by a fairly huge margin - maybe 3 or 4 to 1.
briantho wrote:
I\'m curious, doesn\'t the launch of the Canon M mean that Nikon will have to rethink their mirrorless offerings? Won\'t Nikon be left far behind all competition as it currently stands?
Bifurcator wrote:
Weren\'t they far behind and way out in left field at launch time? I thought they were at least. I guess some people bought that camera but I can\'t imagine anyone doing so - on purpose I mean - at release, now, nor in the future. <shrug>
curious80 wrote:
Apparently Nikon 1 was financially very successful for Nikon and helped them carry through when their DSLR sales were affected by floods etc. It is a system unquestionably aimed at people going up from P&S cameras and looks like they marketed it well enough to get the attention of that segment. I suspect they might have other plans up their sleeves for the more advanced segment of mirror-less market.
aleksanderpolo wrote:
Surely you must be jesting? Or maybe I don\'t really know anything about what is working in the market. In that case, the EF-M will be a huge success and a FF mirrorless is doomed to fail...
Well, the camera shop I frequent for used lenses most only devotes cabinet space to systems that sell well. The Nikon 1 case is about 4 times the size as the Fuji - which is actually stuck in with Ricoh. It\'s about 1/2 size from what both Oly and Pana occupy together. I imagine the itty-bitty size appeals to women and the too-hip iPad crowd fairly well. I was just thinking that almost no one here (at FM and the likes) would be considering them with much seriousness. I mean, there\'s not even a sub-forum here for compacts after-all. (I\'m glad too! )
briantho wrote:
I\'m curious, doesn\'t the launch of the Canon M mean that Nikon will have to rethink their mirrorless offerings? Won\'t Nikon be left far behind all competition as it currently stands?
Bifurcator wrote:
Weren\'t they far behind and way out in left field at launch time? I thought they were at least. I guess some people bought that camera but I can\'t imagine anyone doing so - on purpose I mean - at release, now, nor in the future. <shrug>
curious80 wrote:
Apparently Nikon 1 was financially very successful for Nikon and helped them carry through when their DSLR sales were affected by floods etc. It is a system unquestionably aimed at people going up from P&S cameras and looks like they marketed it well enough to get the attention of that segment. I suspect they might have other plans up their sleeves for the more advanced segment of mirror-less market.
aleksanderpolo wrote:
Surely you must be jesting? Or maybe I don\'t really know anything about what is working in the market. In that case, the EF-M will be a huge success and a FF mirrorless is doomed to fail...
Well, the camera shop I frequent for used lenses most only devotes cabinet space to systems that sell well. The Nikon 1 case is about 4 times the size as the Fuji - which is actually stuck in with Ricoh. It\'s about 1/2 size from what both Oly and Pana occupy together. I imagine the itty-bitty size appeals to women and the too-hip iPad crowd fairly well. I was just thinking that almost no one here (at FM and the likes) would be considering them with much seriousness. I mean, there\'s not even a sub-forum here for compacts after-all. (I\'m glad too! )
briantho wrote:
I\'m curious, doesn\'t the launch of the Canon M mean that Nikon will have to rethink their mirrorless offerings? Won\'t Nikon be left far behind all competition as it currently stands?
Bifurcator wrote:
Weren\'t they far behind and way out in left field at launch time? I thought they were at least. I guess some people bought that camera but I can\'t imagine anyone doing so - on purpose I mean - at release, now, nor in the future. <shrug>
curious80 wrote:
Apparently Nikon 1 was financially very successful for Nikon and helped them carry through when their DSLR sales were affected by floods etc. It is a system unquestionably aimed at people going up from P&S cameras and looks like they marketed it well enough to get the attention of that segment. I suspect they might have other plans up their sleeves for the more advanced segment of mirror-less market.
aleksanderpolo wrote:
Surely you must be jesting? Or maybe I don\'t really know anything about what is working in the market. In that case, the EF-M will be a huge success and a FF mirrorless is doomed to fail...
Well, the camera shop I frequent for used lenses most only devotes cabinet space to systems that sell well. The Nikon 1 case is about 4 times the size as the Fuji - which is actually stuck in with Ricoh. It\'s about 1/2 size from what both Oly and Pana occupy together. I imagine the itty-bitty size appeals women and the too-hip iPad crowd fairly well. I was just thinking that almost no one here (at FM and the likes) would be considering them with much seriousness. I mean, there\'s not even a sub-forum here for compacts after-all. (I\'m glad too! )
briantho wrote:
I\'m curious, doesn\'t the launch of the Canon M mean that Nikon will have to rethink their mirrorless offerings? Won\'t Nikon be left far behind all competition as it currently stands?
Bifurcator wrote:
Weren\'t they far behind and way out in left field at launch time? I thought they were at least. I guess some people bought that camera but I can\'t imagine anyone doing so - on purpose I mean - at release, now, nor in the future. <shrug>
curious80 wrote:
Apparently Nikon 1 was financially very successful for Nikon and helped them carry through when their DSLR sales were affected by floods etc. It is a system unquestionably aimed at people going up from P&S cameras and looks like they marketed it well enough to get the attention of that segment. I suspect they might have other plans up their sleeves for the more advanced segment of mirror-less market.
aleksanderpolo wrote:
Surely you must be jesting? Or maybe I don\'t really know anything about what is working in the market. In that case, the EF-M will be a huge success and a FF mirrorless is doomed to fail...
Well, the camera shop I frequent for used lenses most only devotes cabinet space to systems that sell well. The Nikon 1 case is about 4 times the size as the Fuji - which is actually stuck in with Ricoh. It\'s about 1/2 size from what both Oly and Pana occupy together. I imagine the itty-bitty size appeals women and the too-hip iPad crowd fairly well. I was just thinking that almost no one here (at FM and the likes) would be considering them with much seriousness. I mean, there\'s not even a compact sub-forum here after-all.
Jul 23, 2012 at 05:34 PM
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