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mawz wrote:
Lars Johnsson wrote:
carstenw wrote:
I would guess that Canon and Nikon sell just as few super-teles as Leica sells normal lenses, and that the supply and demand is a lot more stable since there is enough glass like this around to cover most needs already.


Yes the supply and demand is a lot more stable with those lenses. But I also belive they sell a lot more than the Leica in the same price range. There are so many pro\'s using them at sport shooting. Just turn on your TV any weekend and you will see those big lenses at every fotball game. And together that makes thousends of lenses just at those games


It\'s certainly not for Nikon, the last bunch of VR supertele\'s are still in limited availability. IIRC Canon does better, but only because they\'ve been doing higher volumes steadily due to their domination of the sports shooter market for more than 15 years, they had the production capacity for these lenses which even Nikon lacks.

Total production volumes for the super-tele\'s (400/2.8 and longer) is very low. A lot of those lenses you see at games are in fact loaners or rentals from CPS, NPS or a rental firm, so you\'re seeing the same lenses at different games. And those lenses last for years, outside of the serious pro\'s most don\'t upgrade unless they absolutely have to. At least one of the more exotic Canon\'s, the 1200L, is believed to have had a production run under 100 units over 10 years, with only one owner of more than 2 copies other than Canon (Sports Illustrated apparently bought two).


Not that many can be loaners with the same lens at different games. Because all the fotball games in Europe goes at nearly the same time and the same day in 25 different countries. And I\'m talking about many hundreds/thousends of games at the same time every week.



May 13, 2012 at 10:41 AM
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Re: Leica new products


mawz wrote:
Lars Johnsson wrote:
carstenw wrote:
I would guess that Canon and Nikon sell just as few super-teles as Leica sells normal lenses, and that the supply and demand is a lot more stable since there is enough glass like this around to cover most needs already.


Yes the supply and demand is a lot more stable with those lenses. But I also belive they sell a lot more than the Leica in the same price range. There are so many pro\'s using them at sport shooting. Just turn on your TV any weekend and you will see those big lenses at every fotball game. And together that makes thousends of lenses just at those games


It\'s certainly not for Nikon, the last bunch of VR supertele\'s are still in limited availability. IIRC Canon does better, but only because they\'ve been doing higher volumes steadily due to their domination of the sports shooter market for more than 15 years, they had the production capacity for these lenses which even Nikon lacks.

Total production volumes for the super-tele\'s (400/2.8 and longer) is very low. A lot of those lenses you see at games are in fact loaners or rentals from CPS, NPS or a rental firm, so you\'re seeing the same lenses at different games. And those lenses last for years, outside of the serious pro\'s most don\'t upgrade unless they absolutely have to. At least one of the more exotic Canon\'s, the 1200L, is believed to have had a production run under 100 units over 10 years, with only one owner of more than 2 copies other than Canon (Sports Illustrated apparently bought two).


Not that many can be loaners with the same lens at different games. Because all the fotball games in Europe goes at nearly the same time and the same day in 25 different countries. And I\'m talking about many hundreds of games at the same time every week.



May 13, 2012 at 10:32 AM





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