skibum5 wrote: speedmaster20d wrote: Daan B wrote: speedmaster20d wrote:
yes again, as I said it does *not* remove FPN. It has *less* color noise and a bit less FPN as you can see in the example above, this makes it possible to remove the FPN later w/o significantly degrading IQ.
It also shows less detail and color saturation. I understand it works for you, but I prefer the LR rendering in general. There is other software that will (try to) remove banding, such as DFine.
Any ways, my purpose was to demonstrate what can be done with DPP. Of course a better solution might be to sell all of your gear and buy Nikon and not have to deal with this issue if it really affects your work.
The thought has crossed my mind on several occasions
I am not sure if I agree, to my eyes DPP has just as much detail if not more, look at the stripes on the shirt. The difference in sat. is just the default profile, you can increase it.
I don\'t like LR rendering t all, it generates coarse grain with inferior fine detail IMO...
Here is one example that shows this.
If you are interested here is a field example ISO 3200, 5D3 with DPP, a result like this is just not possible with ACR.
To me it is NOT DPP that is showing tight, fine, natural \'grain\'. The ACR samples there have tight, film-like, naturally looking 1 pixel-sized \'grain\' of an even nature while DPP has that mix of smoothed out and tight \'grain\' and large blotch \'grain\' look. I suppose you may say that lets it NR better since it does it more heavily on flat surfaces, but I find that weird semi-smooth to suddenly harsh edges and random bits of \'grain\' look quite unnatural looking and bothersome and prefer more overall noise, if need be, to that sort of look myself.
And what settings did you use for ACR pre-sharpening and what post sharpening did you use? The ACR defaults for sharpening I do not find lead to the best performance for fine details.
I have no idea what you are talking about in terms of \"large blotch\" etc. These things are subjective. To my eyes LR looks grainy and coarse, DPP looks natural and detailed.
The grain in ACR output has an average radius of 3-4 pixels in DPP is 1-2. Unless you use wrong settings, such as USM or luminance NR etc. which is what most people do.
Anyways, we cannot agree on this topic. There is no point in dragging this conversation. I expressed my opinion and you did yours. time to move on.
May 02, 2012 at 03:40 PM
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