Samuli Vahonen
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 Re: ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!) | |
Helena, nice VW beetle, even enormous amount of contrast you managed to show the shape of the white beetle (=it\'s not flat) - I really try to resist buying 1.4/35, but images like this won\'t make it any easier, love the rendering style. Maybe I just should get it, I spent enormous amounts of my time figuring out reasons why not to get it...
Lars, really liked your last banana plant image, color contrast used very well.
Lieutenant Z, the 85P - liked the color contrast of this shot and that the plant divides the image to parts (it\'s like cross of something)
Hugo, very nice cable car/elevator/what-ever-those-things-are-called photo. This will make nice big print with all the detail on the cityscape.
abhijeeth wrote:
Samuli: Beautiful image. Sweet, soft light and the perfect amount of contrast and sharpness. Sometimes even a little bit of over-sharperning or contrast can ruin a flower photo and this is just spot on! Great work.
Any reason you choose to photograph this with the 85 rather than 100MP? [As straightforward as a FL choice? ]
Abhijeethm thanks - your question is not the easiest one to answer, and I\'m no shakespeare... for this photo I chose 85P most probably because of very low light levels, it was shoot at 11:02PM, and if I remember correctly I didn\'t have tripod with me, had to even crank the ISO to 200. If there would have been more light I could have shot it with 100MP, however it would have been completely different style. Focal length difference between 85mm and 100mm had nothing to do with lens selection, they are so close that difference is meaningless. For magnification used in this photo (those are really big flowers, the flower part can be as long as 50cm/20\"), combined to shallow DOF 9 out of 10 times I prefer 85P rendering style over the one from 100MP.
I personally haven\'t never felt either of these lenses is superior to other. They are very different tools, and compromises made in both of them make them to have very different pros and cons. Also differences are not always as big as people think, at some conditions both of these lenses produce almost identical shots (e.g. the hiking shoe comparison I posted in March here).
abhijeeth wrote:
The reason I ask is because over time and some observation, in my **opinion**, I think 35 1.4, 50P, 85P are very well suited to certain types of photos.
Some examples:
1. isolating foliage amidst a dense forest while still imparting good color and micro-contrast.
2. Cars [I do not know if the under-corrected aberrations at some distances giving rise to the unique bokeh makes metallic surfaces shine/gleam very nicely/naturally].
I would add few opinions of mine:
- large distant human made objects (e.g. house from 20-30 away)
- landscapes, where texture/small foliage isn\'t important, but instead of lines and contrast edges (hard to describe but for example if I would shoot curves formed by dunes, I would prefer 85P, but for Austria green mountain \"walls\" I prefer 100MP)
- \"enviromental portraits\" (whole body shown, magnification so that when shooting portrait orientation frame height is about 1.3x of person height - while I prefer 100MP for smaller magnification landscape orientation shots where image height is 1.3-1.4x of person height)
- anything mid-range shooting, which need minimal DOF and overall quality of bokeh (and low contrast in bokeh) AND specially bokeh quality in corners is important ---> definitely job for 85P (it has big enough lens barrel, while 100MP vignettes like crazy causing \"high DOF\"-bokeh in corners when shoot wide open anything else than macros)
- close-ups of flowers etc. small objects when crazy (swirly and lively) bokeh is needed
As overall 85P is really good, however 100MP provides more consistent quality over various of situations. 100MP also always delivers drawing quality called \"brilliance\" or more of it [see Lloyd for definition of brilliance if you don\'t know, it was explained at least in \"ZF lenses\" (your have to pay for access) but he may have some dictionary somewhere on his free website] which makes me to take 100MP more often with me.
However every time I view my 85P photos I get feeling \"I need to use this lens more\". But I can\'t carry all lenses with me; So I end up leaving 85P too often home.
Back pain ruined 2011 shooting season and I don\'t want to repeat the experience. This year I want to carry light kit and also I prefer to avoid changing lenses all the time. I have planned to use most of the times 2/25 in other body, 2/100 in the another and then 50P just as lens in the backbag. Using 2/25 and 2/100 as main lenses gives photos similar style even focal lengths are different (very high contrast, very good deep colors, brilliance). Now writing this and and stuff above, the more I think it I may need to get the 1,4/35 in order to get other set of lenses (1.4/35 in other body, 1.4/85 in other body), which would also have very similar rendering style. 85P is hard to pair with anything, since it\'s hard to match it\'s rendering style (of course could pair it with 50P but they are so close in focal length that doesn\'t make much sense).
abhijeeth wrote:
edward: more slide film shots please 
-1 I really like Edwards style (we both have been quite long here...), but I don\'t like at all his lousy film scanner...more GXR + ZM please
\"220V...or not\" - Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 2/25 @ f/2.8, 1/125s, ISO 200
\"High security...or not\" - Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 2/25 @ f/2.8, 1/80s, ISO 400
\"Clean and intact windows...or not\" - Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 2/25 @ f/2.8, 1/125s, ISO 200
Samuli
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