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Re: The FM X-Pro 1 Thread | |
miloz wrote:
If the XPro-1 were $995 it wouldn\'t exist. That\'s not a realistic price-point.
I\'ve owned a D700, a Leica M7 and M4, a F100, I\'ve just recently come into a Pentax 645N (which, I wil say, is the most fun to shoot camera I\'ve ever had - 35mm, MF, digital or film, etc.)... the XPro-1 is the equal of any in \"build, feel and handling.\" Equating \"build quality\" with \"weighs a lot\" is absurd.
Clicking aperture - just like MFT bodies. No RAW support - Adobe always takes time to catch up. It will be here soon. The 18/2 is getting excellent reviews from actual users. Sub-par menus - again, this is just incorrect and makes it obvious you haven\'t used one.
You\'re looking for reasons to dislike the XPro-1, which is fine. Don\'t buy one. I\'m not going to buy a Canon 5DIII (though, I see a D800 in my future if they\'re ever available) but I don\'t need to manufacture reasons about why not.
Of course I am looking for reasons to dislike the X Pro 1, there are enough reasons to like it to go and buy it blind. I am however more interested in shortcomings so that I can work out if I can live with them or not.
Build quality was an unfair comment from me, I admit that. I need to work one beforehand. But if it is anything like the X100 and the X10 I am not convinced, too many rejects on those to be receive a well built merit. My shutter button on the X10 fell off. I didn\'t really do anything like snag it or so. It just fell off. Quality? I equate build quality with cameras like the Nikon F4, Contax RX, RTSII and III and the likes. Fuji has nothing of the same caliber on the market today.
I also think it is fair to question the build quality if you factor in the marvelously built TX-1 and TX-2 from Fuji, rangefinder panoramic cameras. The X Pro 1 seems to be nothing like them in build quality. Look at how much you can get stuffed in a volume selling camera for $995 nowadays, that is a lot.
The 18/2 will get awards for the best lens on the planet - by less discriminating users. For me it fails to deliver something RF wide angle lenses have done for decades on film. So good lens, yes, Great lens, nah.
The 35/1.4 will get well deserved universal praise, I wish I could stick that lens on my camera.
The menu system? Not even top ten. Never will be from Fuji.
itai195 wrote:
It\'s really easy to just absorb all the negativity when reading an online forum. Before receiving my camera, I was worried that I\'d made a terrible mistake. But now that I have received it, I admit that it has its faults, but much of the negativity is overblown. The AF is not in the same class as a DSLR or an E-P3, but it\'s not even close to unusable. I guess it\'s subjective, but you should try it and judge for yourself rather than relying solely on a few comments on the web. I guess I just find the complaining ironic considering this is the same forum that popularizes the use of MF Zeiss lenses on DSLRs that aren\'t designed for a good MF experience. One major issue is that Fuji ships the camera with the parallax corrected AF point feature turned off. It really should be on. I wonder how many people give up on the AF because this feature is off or they don\'t understand the parallax issue.
The build quality is good except for a few niggles: mainly the battery compartment door. Lloyd Chambers said he almost immediately snapped off the battery door on his D800. Is this a showstopper?
The menu system is really okay. Really. It\'s not the same menu as the X100. It\'s not the greatest menu ever, but it\'s perfectly fine.
Anyway, I\'m not saying the camera is without faults. I enumerated a long list of them earlier. But I\'d encourage anyone interested in it to try to ignore the internet echo chamber, try one yourself, and make your own decision.
The parallax AF point issue is good information, it is something that will help a lot of people out.
I am used to shooting the G2 with a similar problem to be overcome so I guess I would be fine.
I have taken the very ungrateful role of (light oz) hammering the X Pro 1 by pointing out what to me seems like problems and design faults, so not everything is sugar coated with a shimmering glow. But I will refrain from reiterating the same things over from now on, I promise. I am sure new problems will surface from user reports and am not afraid to post those findings here.
/ the Echo chamber
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