mttran wrote:
Dan, please don\'t quote someone else\'s words into mine...reader know how to read well and really don\'t need your help to understand mine. So, don\'t distort my msg. Read again if you still don\'t get what i wrote.
My apology for misattributing the \"4 stop\" comment to you. It was made by Don Clary, whose message you were responding to. I\'m afraid I got lost in the nested quotes, but you are correct that I incorrectly attributed someone else\'s words to you.
Back to the point, Don was essentially supporting my point of view, based on a test that he did \"for mttran\" that called for pushing the image by four stops:
On the previous page of this thread, mttran wrote quoted: Don Clary, who had written (italics and bold added for emphasis):
...I did a special noise test for mttran on my 5DII, photographing with light strong in red (candles, incandescent lights) which show the effect most strongly (banding will first appear in the red channel).
If I lifted shadows 3 stops, I saw slight banding at 100% pixels; might not show in prints. Lifting 4 stops clearly showed banding that would show in a print.
Question is, when do I need to lift shadows by 3.5 stops? For me, never! It has never appeared in any real picture I have ever taken.
My primary point about this issue/obsession remains, and is supported by Clary\'s post. Like me, he apparently prints. Like me, he has never seen this \"problem\" appear in a print. That is the important and relevant point here, and I regret it if my accidental misattribution diluted our point.
mttran wrote:
Dan, please don\'t quote someone else\'s words into mine...reader know how to read well and really don\'t need your help to understand mine. So, don\'t distort my msg. Read again if you still don\'t get what i wrote.
My apology for misattributing the \"4 stop\" comment to you. It was made by Don Clary, whose message you were responding to. I\'m afraid I got lost in the nested quotes, but you are correct that I incorrectly attributed someone else\'s words to you.
Back to the point, Don was essentially supporting my point of view, based on a test that he did \"for mttran\" that called for pushing the image by four stops:
On the previous page of this thread, mttran wrote quoted: Don Clary, who had written (italics and bold added for emphasis):
...I did a special noise test for mttran on my 5DII, photographing with light strong in red (candles, incandescent lights) which show the effect most strongly (banding will first appear in the red channel).
If I lifted shadows 3 stops, I saw slight banding at 100% pixels; might not show in prints. Lifting 4 stops clearly showed banding that would show in a print.
Question is, when do I need to lift shadows by 3.5 stops? For me, never! It has never appeared in any real picture I have ever taken.
My primary point about this issue/obsession remains, and is supported by Clary\'s post. Like me, he prints. Like me, he has never seen this \"problem\" appear in a print. That is the important and relevant point here, and I regret it if my accidental misattribution diluted our point.
Dan
Dec 27, 2011 at 01:10 PM
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