I have read that other software in addition to Capture will open D1x raw files at the 10.5MP. However, I wonder if this is really the default 10.5 MP image size. By default, I mean Nikon Capture keeps all the horizontal resolution intact, and only interpolates the vertical to yield 10.5 MP files. I have experienced myself that Camera Raw will open D1x raw files at roughly the same size. however, I wonder if Camera Raw really does it the defaut way, or if it is just interpolating from the already-processed 3008x1960 (5.4MP version) of the raw file and scaling it. Camera raw will allow opening any file from any camera at a number of sizes, and all it's doing is scaling the raw data. But I wonder if it's actually preserving the Nikon D1x's 4000-ish horizontal pixel count when you try to do this with a D1x raw file. Does anyone know for sure? How could we verfiy what Adobe Camera raw is actually doing to the files? I was under the impression that only Capture would use the default Nikon algorithm for D1x raw files opened at 10.5 MP. Anyone know for sure?
EB-1 wrote:
Does the camera have the buffer upgrade?
EBH
It does, but honestly that's not a factor. Any D1x can yield the 10.5MP native output with the right software. The trick is to keep ther horizontal res intact and interpolate the vertical. But how can we verify if Camera Raw (the converter I use) does it correctly or not? Raw converters are like black boxes as far as I can tell.
I cannot speak about C1 but for Adobe products as long as Photoshop is installed on your computer prior to installing Nikon View a plug-in is automatically installed which provides you the option in Adobe to open the file as the enhanced size. Here is a writeup from the Nikon web site
davenfl wrote:
I cannot speak about C1 but for Adobe products as long as Photoshop is installed on your computer prior to installing Nikon View a plug-in is automatically installed which provides you the option in Adobe to open the file as the enhanced size. Here is a writeup from the Nikon web site
If you read that over it should clear up your questions. I didn't do anything special and it works fine on my machines.
Dave
Thanks!!!!!!
So the issue was that I had Nikon View (version 6 in my case) installed before Photoshop (CS4). I'll have to see if I can straighten it out to make it work.
Edit: However, it's still not clear if PS Camera Raw will work with this, as this was written a while back. It looks like a separate method is used, so hopefully it won't bypass Camera Raw entirely. Can you confirm if you get the checkbox for 10MP size and then the image opens successfully in Camera Raw at that default size? Hopefully this was a legacy feature that Adobe carried forward.
I do get a checkbox, it seems to operate the same as Nikon's software. I didn't do anything special and I am not having any problems so it either handles it automatically and by dumb luck I did something right. I had sold off all my D1X's ages ago and just picked up this one to fool around less then a year ago so the new stuff must somehow work because I didn't do anything special at all.
davenfl wrote:
I do get a checkbox, it seems to operate the same as Nikon's software. I didn't do anything special and I am not having any problems so it either handles it automatically and by dumb luck I did something right. I had sold off all my D1X's ages ago and just picked up this one to fool around less then a year ago so the new stuff must somehow work because I didn't do anything special at all.
Dave
So when you go to open a file, the Nikon checkbox comes up and 10MP is selected? And then it opens in Camera Raw? Or it opens in PS directly? I need it to open in camera raw.
I need to manually install the plug-in into the Photoshop plugins folder under import/export. But I'm not sure which file in the Nikon View folder is the correct plugin. Can anyone who has it working please check your import-export folder (inside the Adobe Photoshop plugins folder) and tell me what the name of the plugin is?
It's going to be either: "Nikon NEF Plugin.8bi" or "Nikon NEF Plugin_5x.8bi", but I'm not sure which of the two it is.
Edit: The other thing I'm not sure of, is if this file should be copied into the import-export folder for Adobe PS CS4 or the corresponding folder for Bridge. I'd still like the files to open up correctly in Camera Raw. I don't want Camera Raw to by bypassed!
ZoneV_Nikon wrote:
But how can we verify if Camera Raw (the converter I use) does it correctly or not?
I can't think of any meaningful sense of the word "correct" in this sentence. The only important thing is how the images look. Are the ACR images as good-looking, as sharp, as the NX2 images? That should be how you judge it. Who cares how they got there, as long as they get there?
I might be doing something wrong, but I just opened an NEF file from my D1X in Camera Raw (CS2). I selected the "10.5 MP" size in the size-drop down menu. The final size after opening is 2613 x 4011 (Depth I selected was only 8 bit/Channel as 16 bit would take up to much space on my tiny hard drive) . My Camera Raw version is 3.3.
snegron wrote:
I might be doing something wrong, but I just opened an NEF file from my D1X in Camera Raw (CS2). I selected the "10.5 MP" size in the size-drop down menu. The final size after opening is 2613 x 4011 (Depth I selected was only 8 bit/Channel as 16 bit would take up to much space on my tiny hard drive) . My Camera Raw version is 3.3.
Sounds like you're letting camera raw do its version of interpolation. That's the one I was trying to stay away from. The Nikon algorithm definitely keeps the horizontal resolution from the sensor intact. I don't know if camera raw does or not. You don't have the plugin file installed by the sound of it.
I don't know if this still applies to this or not. But the program call " Bibble " by Bibble Labs was originally made/conceived to give people choice #2 when using the DX format from Nikon. Although not exact in the way Nikon's software handled these D1/D1x images.. it certainly brought new tools to the table for the people shooting daily(for a living). Being as the D1x was the first PRO body I purchased when I switched over to digital. Bibble is a mainstay here and always will be. The newer v 5.**> is good, but I'm an older version with "Perfectly Clear" option built in.
