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p.61 #1 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


chrisd999 wrote:
It is a lovely image for 1906. I'm sure it was a shift lens (unless he was using LR )


1906 no question was a 4x5.maybe larger. I believe art major here. We did not see 35mm until 1930. I think



Mar 18, 2023 at 08:21 AM
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p.61 #2 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


chrisd999 wrote:

After looking through my portfolio of images from over 15 years with many dozens of different lenses, I'd say the 50mm GM 1.2 can produce some of the strongest 3D pop from a single image, based on my experience. For even stronger 3D pop, I have also dabbled with some bokeh panoramas, but I guess that would be cheating on this thread

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51931648470_83228f5b2e_3k.jpg


Absolutely. The 50gm appears to give me the most convincing cinematic, photo-realistic images. If we call it pop, 3d or whatever.




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Mar 18, 2023 at 08:57 AM
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p.61 #3 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


Man on bench jumps and that's what you're looking for. Nice




Mar 18, 2023 at 09:11 AM
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p.61 #4 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


I was close

The Leica 1(A) was the first commercially available Leica 35mm camera. The Leica, designed by Oscar Barnack, was announced in 1924 and sold to the public in 1925. The Leica was an immediate success and was responsible for popularizing 35mm film photography.

Personal note I have been to Leica several years ago on a Leica workshop as a guest of Leica. Seen the whole factory this goes back to the M8 days



Mar 18, 2023 at 09:25 AM
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p.61 #5 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


GMPhotography wrote:
Man on bench jumps and that's what you're looking for. Nice



Thanks Guy.



Mar 18, 2023 at 09:43 AM
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p.61 #6 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


fotografur wrote:
Absolutely. The 50gm appears to give me the most convincing cinematic, photo-realistic images. If we call it pop, 3d or whatever.


I have -got- to stop looking at these images from the 50mm 1.2 GM. My wallet and my shoulder can't take that sort of strain.



Mar 18, 2023 at 09:50 AM
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p.61 #7 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


I'm waiting for Topaz to bring out AI 3D...


Mar 18, 2023 at 09:52 AM
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p.61 #8 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


The way I look at it, 3d pop is the ability of a lens to retain the contrast on the border if the subject matter (in focus) and background.
Having your subject lit with light; presence of shadows; spacial separation with the background, smoothness of the OOF versus high-resolution subject matter; clearly noticeable border between the subject (full shape of it being in focus) versus generally monotone OOF background (which is contrasty to the subject matter) - all of these contribute to 3d effect.
And there you have it - high quality sharp glass with shallow DOF provides you that pop.

Interestingly, subject detached from the environment processed by our brain as poppier: compare human standing and jumping, provided all settings are the same.



Mar 18, 2023 at 10:29 AM
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p.61 #9 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


3d pop from Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton:


Pier by Jukka Hernetkoski, on Flickr


Kesä 😎 by Jukka Hernetkoski, on Flickr


Ukkospilviä by Jukka Hernetkoski, on Flickr



Mar 18, 2023 at 11:19 AM
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p.61 #10 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


I see more of the 3D pop with more of a cut and paste look with the more modern large aperture lenses that have high contrast when taken wide open. I haven't seen many images at landscape apertures that show the depth as that 1906 picture. Anyone know of any lenses for full frame that can produce a similar look?





This picture has more sense of depth with a less of the cut and paste feel to me



Edited on Mar 30, 2023 at 12:27 PM · View previous versions



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p.61 #11 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


MikeEvangelist wrote:
I have -got- to stop looking at these images from the 50mm 1.2 GM. My wallet and my shoulder can't take that sort of strain.


I've bought the 50/1.2 GM 3 times now. It's seems so impractical, so I sell it. But then I miss the look and feel I can't seem to get with other lenses, so I end up buying it again. I'm on my 3rd copy, which I will hopefully keep this time. When will I learn? Thankfully, I live somewhere where it's quick and easy to buy and sell quality used lenses like this.




Mar 18, 2023 at 03:28 PM
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p.61 #12 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


chrisd999 wrote:
But then I miss the look and feel I can't seem to get with other lenses, so I end up buying it again.


You're not helping.



Mar 18, 2023 at 04:11 PM
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p.61 #13 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


chrisd999 wrote:

After looking through my portfolio of images from over 15 years with many dozens of different lenses, I'd say the 50mm GM 1.2 can produce some of the strongest 3D pop from a single image, based on my experience. For even stronger 3D pop, I have also dabbled with some bokeh panoramas, but I guess that would be cheating on this thread

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51931648470_83228f5b2e_3k.jpg


Sorry, but I don't see 3D pop here. To my eye this is a highlighted subject contrasted with faded background.



Mar 18, 2023 at 04:11 PM
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p.61 #14 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


fotografur wrote:
Absolutely. The 50gm appears to give me the most convincing cinematic, photo-realistic images. If we call it pop, 3d or whatever.


Excuse me guys, but I don't see 3D pop here as well.



Mar 18, 2023 at 04:11 PM
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p.61 #15 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


cameraman72 wrote:
I see more of the 3D pop with more of a cut and paste look with the more modern large aperture lenses that have high contrast when taken wide open. I haven't seen many images at landscape apertures that show the depth as that 1906 picture. Anyone know of any lenses for full frame that can produce a similar look?


100 years ago photographers were drawing with light, they did it carefully by thinking of the composition and waiting for the right moment as they were limited by the tools in their possession. Photographer of today simply takes snapshots and waits for the tool to do it all for him/her.



Mar 18, 2023 at 04:15 PM
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p.61 #16 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


cameraman72 wrote:
I see more of the 3D pop with more of a cut and paste look with the more modern large aperture lenses that have high contrast when taken wide open. I haven't seen many images at landscape apertures that show the depth as that 1906 picture. Anyone know of any lenses for full frame that can produce a similar look?


Everything is in shadows - hardly '3D pop' is possible here at all.



Mar 18, 2023 at 04:17 PM
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p.61 #17 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


jukkah wrote:
3d pop from Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52253218004_409b6d4a4d_b.jpg
Pier by Jukka Hernetkoski, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52201831147_18a052bb63_b.jpg
Kesä 😎 by Jukka Hernetkoski, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52204127273_2fe8e30eb7_b.jpg
Ukkospilviä by Jukka Hernetkoski, on Flickr


Increased highlights/whites and blacks/shadows?



Mar 18, 2023 at 04:39 PM
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p.61 #18 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


lensfan wrote:
Excuse me guys, but I don't see 3D pop here as well.


Please post an image of yours that you see having more sense of depth so I can understand what you mean.



Mar 18, 2023 at 04:42 PM
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p.61 #19 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


fotografur wrote:
Please post an image of yours that you see having more sense of depth so I can understand what you mean.


I can use this image: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/983034/1#15157574
In-focus subjects not only pop on the blurry contrasty background but also have some play of shadow, relief and dimensionality.
I mean it is not only the ability of lens to produce the pop effect but also the light and some other brain tricks.



Mar 18, 2023 at 04:48 PM
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p.61 #20 · which lens has the most 3D POP?


lensfan wrote:
I can use this image: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/983034/1#15157574
In-focus subjects not only pop on the blurry contrasty background but also have some play of shadow, relief and dimensionality.
I mean it is not only the ability of lens to produce the pop effect but also the light and some other brain tricks.




I'm not surprised you wouldn't post one your own photos.
Just lot's of talk.

Edited on Mar 18, 2023 at 07:45 PM · View previous versions



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