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p.4 #1 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


Debuggerus, palexy - thanks a lot!

Edward, I'm still using the same one I posted before. I have just modified the final resolution to be 1200 pixels instead of 1024:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/936822/0#8846510

Speaking of tourists getting in the way, I was annoyed that it was impossible to get a clean shot of Hatchepsut's mortuary temple.. so I decided to take an existing shot and de-toursitify it Photoshop. It's pretty shoddy work but I think it works on web size:

Before:
http://peltarion.eu/img/egypt/eg-24.jpg

After:
http://peltarion.eu/img/egypt/eg-24b.jpg

I used a combination of content aware fill and cloning.



Jan 10, 2011 at 04:24 PM
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p.4 #2 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


You could have tried that old trick of a big hefty ND filter and a long exposure...


Jan 10, 2011 at 04:31 PM
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p.4 #3 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


I had no tripod with me at the time and no ND filter, but yes, that would have been a solution.


Jan 10, 2011 at 04:33 PM
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p.4 #4 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


denoir wrote:
Debuggerus, palexy - thanks a lot!

Edward, I'm still using the same one I posted before. I have just modified the final resolution to be 1200 pixels instead of 1024:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/936822/0#8846510

Speaking of tourists getting in the way, I was annoyed that it was impossible to get a clean shot of Hatchepsut's mortuary temple.. so I decided to take an existing shot and de-toursitify it Photoshop. It's pretty shoddy work but I think it works on web size:

Before:
http://peltarion.eu/img/egypt/eg-24.jpg

After:
http://peltarion.eu/img/egypt/eg-24b.jpg

I used a combination of content aware fill and cloning.


Nice - I use the software technique quite a bit

Wonderful pics!! and very nice equipment--unfortunately i'm going to have to stick to the DSLR route for now



Jan 10, 2011 at 04:54 PM
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p.4 #5 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


Luka, very nice shot! Excellent use of PS to rid of the crowds


Jan 10, 2011 at 07:45 PM
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p.4 #6 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


Just beautiful .....
I feel as if I've been there ..... though I have never....

Some day ....



Jan 10, 2011 at 08:34 PM
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p.4 #7 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


denoir wrote:
No, the other way around. There shots that I could have made with a DSLR that I couldn't with an M9. I was for instance limited to 75mm. The longest Leica M lens available is 135mm.

Think of it as equivalent to a zoom vs prime thing. Using a prime forces you to move around and you will subsequently find new angles - something that you would not have bothered with a zoom. Same thing here. The focal lenght limitations, the focusing style, the approximate framing with framelines etc all force you to use the camera in a different way than
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Ah ok, I understand. It makes perfect sense. I actually think that worst thing about P&S cameras today is not picture quality (today) but the zooms and of course automatic settings, leading people to being lazy and lacking creativity. When I take two primes with me, I very rarely miss anything else.



Jan 10, 2011 at 09:06 PM
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p.4 #8 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


Great shots denoir! Thanks for sharing. I was expecting a little more closed up candids of egyptian people in their day to day life in your people category. But maybe its just my style. But you captured the landscape and historical buildings very well (as always), and always admire how you can squeeze out fine details with your skill. Congrats.


Jan 10, 2011 at 09:38 PM
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p.4 #9 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


A good technique for removing crowds is taking quite a few images from a tripod of identical exposure, creating a stack in photoshop and choosing the "median" stack mode. No more people (hopefully).


Jan 10, 2011 at 10:50 PM
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p.4 #10 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


mortyb wrote:
I gotta say the amount of detail, or maybe it's the perception of detail, in these Egypt photos is astonishing, even at websize. They don't have that oversharpened look at all, just loads of detail. It really adds to the feeling of looking at the real thing. Esp. the ZM 18 and Leica 35 1.4 shots are totally awesome in that regard. I'd say from a technical point of view, these are as good as I could ever wish for. Colors as well. I'm afraid though I would have serious issues getting focus right with it.



+1. that level of detail really makes the photos stand out!



Jan 11, 2011 at 12:22 PM
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p.4 #11 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


Thanks Charles, Paul, Dennys & George!


Jan 11, 2011 at 01:47 PM
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p.4 #12 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


Call me crazy but I actually prefer Hatchepsut's mortuary temple with the people in the frame. They really aren't crawling all over the place enough to make it distract from the temple itself and honestly I think give a really nice sense of scale and perspective.

Awesome shots and account as a whole though. You could provide those sames shots and accounts from a photographers perspective and I bet get an article published in a bunch of different travel or photographer magazines.



Jan 11, 2011 at 02:26 PM
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p.4 #13 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


Well Luka, your images have certainly brought out the color in me. Green, I'm green with envy. Beautiful images, Luka, extremely well done.


Jan 11, 2011 at 02:29 PM
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p.4 #14 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


Beautiful photos. Takes me back to may trip a few years ago with my boy. Stunning experience. I was something of a beginner with the photography. But I have some nice images. The whole baksheesh/tips/bribery thing is tiresome. I look at some of your photos of Hatchepsut and Luxor to be nearly identical to mine (although far better done). A factor perhaps of the accommodating soldier pointing out the spot for a photo with his hand out stretched? I must admit, some of my most striking photos were taken from the spots indicated by the soldiers and other "helpful" souls.

"The Egyptian museum is fantastic, although very poorly maintained."

I found that fact to be one of the most striking and charming features of the museum when we visited. The collection of Egyptian artifacts is clearly the greatest and most extensive in the world.
but with the exception of the King Tut display, the entire place was ill lighted, over crowded with artifacts, poorly kept, and utterly magnificent and charming. I felt like I had been allowed into a warehouse of things not ready for public view. We were able to wander without guides or docents. We could have sat on the artifacts if we had wanted. (People probably do). No doubt there are more then a few initials scratched into the backs of ancient artifacts because of the lack of docents, but still and all, charming. I loved it!

Did you say that photos are not allowed in the Valley of the Kings itself, or just not within the tombs? We could not take photos within the tombs themselves, but could freely take shots outside in the Valley itself.

Beautiful shots. Thank you for posting. Number one is stunning!

Lorin



Jan 11, 2011 at 03:13 PM
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p.4 #15 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


thrice wrote:
A good technique for removing crowds is taking quite a few images from a tripod of identical exposure, creating a stack in photoshop and choosing the "median" stack mode. No more people (hopefully).


Good point. If the crowds are sparse-ish, I bet you could simplify your idea by snapping 3 or 4 photos with people in different places, and just layer them together, masking out the offending bits on their respective layers.



Jan 11, 2011 at 03:16 PM
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p.4 #16 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


Thanks Jeff, Michelle & Lorin !

Lorin, yep, there was a blanket ban for taking in cameras into the valley. Apparently people kept bribing the guards to take photos and did not bother to turn off the flash. I can understand it in principle but in practice it's rather pointless as they have much larger problems - such as the guards selling off parts of the tombs to the tourists.



Jan 11, 2011 at 04:15 PM
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p.4 #17 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


Luka, thanks - I'm not sure how I missed that one - just going on previous comments in another thread. THat will be a very helpful starting point - thanks so much!


Jan 11, 2011 at 04:36 PM
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p.4 #18 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


Perhaps one other thing worth mentioning, told by other visitors in Egypt. Apparently the photography ban can be taken very seriously. Meaning that if you somehow take a snap inside, they will get you outside and it can be very unpleasant. There are some kind of spies inside those places and they report such incidents to the authorities.


Jan 11, 2011 at 06:31 PM
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p.4 #19 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


Glad to be of help Edward

Trdonja: Yes and no. They take the ban seriously but the consequences are simply that you will have to bribe the guard(s) that caught you. I would definitely recommend against breaking such bans but if you insist, it is probably better to bribe before you start taking pictures.




Jan 11, 2011 at 07:26 PM
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p.4 #20 · Egypt with Leica & Zeiss


wayne seltzer wrote:
Sorry, I still think you could have "composed" these shots the same with a DSLR.
The only impact I see of using a rangefinder is the leaving of space/margin at the edges of the frame to make sure you don't cut something out of the shot that you wanted since the framelines are approximate. And of course the small camera advantage when taking portraits which is one of the main advantages of rangefinders IMO.
Yes, with a rangefinder you are constrained to 135mm or less lenses, but it is not like with a DSLR that you are going to take
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In my opinion you can do anything with a DSLR that you can with a RF... However, you wouldn't. Let me clarify what I mean.
For street photography if I use a 5DII and ZE lenses, my process is, I see something I like, I hold the camera up to my eye, I take a look through the viewfinder, I get instant tunnel vision, and if the composition doesn't work, I pass and put down my camera. Usually because of that I end up taking one of two types of shots. The first people (and a DSLR attracts a lot of unwanted attention), but if there's a person I want to shoot and they see me, I ask for a photo, they smile, I shoot. If they don't see me, I lift my camera I shoot, usually no time for composition, so I try to instinctively distance myself before raising my camera. Second type is detailed shots (hence me loving the 50 MP ZE as the ultimate 50mm).. I see some small quirky detail while walking around, I look for an angle of it I like I lift up my camera and I shoot, usually getting what I see with the naked eye.
With the M9, when I see something I like, I hold the camera up to my eye, the viewfinder is so wide open that I can see things outside my frame lines (I use a 50 fyi). So no tunnel vision, which means if something doesn't work, I simply re-angle myself without removing the camera from my eye, since I can see the scene around me. Or even walk while the camera is on my eye till I "find" a way to make the shot work. It's a lot less hassle for someone who doesn't normally shoot street scenes to make a picture work with a rangefinder.

But again, this is coming from someone who shoots studio portraits and the odd wedding for a living. Studio portraits I need the DSLR as it's the only way I can achieve critical focus, and wedding usually require AF. So really the RF is a lightweight welcome change to the way I normally take photos.

Best,
Adam



Jan 12, 2011 at 12:50 AM
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